Would you want to see a select few retired PVP mounts on the BMAH?

[Queen of Hamsters]

PvPers also got exclusive PvP gear recolors and Tabards though that are no longer available.

I think they should either remove the PvE mounts too completely after a set amount of time to keep them exclusive, or make the old PvP ones available too for even the most casual players. Things would be fair and equal this way.
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I'd say the current system is perfectly fine. People that want the shiniest rewards from either content, are free to pursue it. Everything doesn't have to be "equal", it's an MMORPG.

As someone that doesn't have Gladiator mounts and probably never will, I'm completely fine with them being exclusive to the PVP seasons.

[Fleckens]

I always think that it was worth to the gladiators were the title, showing that they were truly the best in PvP

now I know, they seek the gladiator just for a mount

Title only lasts for one season, it's not a permanent thing like the mount.

Also gladiator mount is one of the few things that is still character build rather than account bound. I guess if you want things to be truly fair we should also make all mounts from raids be bound only to that character.

[Deleted]

Title only lasts for one season, it's not a permanent thing like the mount.

Also gladiator mount is one of the few things that is still character build rather than account bound. I guess if you want things to be truly fair we should also make all mounts from raids be bound only to that character.

Yeah that is true, the PvP mounts should be account wide in my opinion. Also the tiles should be permanent too and linked to feats of strength, for example "Malevolent Gladiator ...", "Merciless Gladiator ..." and so on.

[Cæli]

Yes. Starting price 9.5 Millions.

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Title only lasts for one season, it's not a permanent thing like the mount.

Also gladiator mount is one of the few things that is still character build rather than account bound. I guess if you want things to be truly fair we should also make all mounts from raids be bound only to that character.

I'd like that, but that train has left the station few years ago. Account-bound stuff makes it feel like playing account, not character, which seems very wrong in what supposed to be RPG.

It would make sense to make PvP mounts account-bound as well.

Everything in WoW is becoming account-bound, it doesn't make sense to use old metrics for PvP mounts. PvP has always been the least RPG element in WoW. But years later mounts make it the only element where character matters.

[Queen of Hamsters]

You are retarded. Rank one gladiator titles are the most prestigious titles in this game.

A prestigious title that plenty of people buy for real cash or gold. I have yet to hear of anyone buying a World First kill. Talk about being mad over nothing.

[Queen of Hamsters]

World First not giving any tangible rewards is proof enough it doesn't mean shit.

And what "tangible" reward does Gladiator give other than a title and a mount?
Broadly speaking, nothing done in the game "means shit" if we're going to go down that road. You can't shit and clench, either it matters, or it doesn't. Saying that one thing that requires you to sit down and press buttons matters over the other for arbitrary reasons is the only retarded action here.

The fact that those valuing Gladiator so highly have this need to downplay the accomplishments of High end PVErs is all the proof one needs I guess...the ones worth taking seriously know that both modes of content place high requirements on the participants.

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Title only lasts for one season, it's not a permanent thing like the mount.

Also gladiator mount is one of the few things that is still character build rather than account bound. I guess if you want things to be truly fair we should also make all mounts from raids be bound only to that character.

Please no! D:
I love the account-wide pets, mounts and wardrobe. It makes all my characters viable and means that my efforts apply to ME, not the luck of the character I happened to be playing for example when coming across a rare world mount or such.

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I'd like that, but that train has left the station few years ago. Account-bound stuff makes it feel like playing account, not character, which seems very wrong in what supposed to be RPG.

Never had that problem myself. All my characters are special to me, them having access to the collections I and no one else poured hours into doesn't lessen them one bit.

[araine]

definately yes, i can already see tons of others around with ZG tiger that didnt get it at lvl 60 like i did.

That mount cost me so much DKP and with having it in the BMAH it isnt as unique anymore for me so why should only PvE players suffer this tyranny. be fair and allow these other mounts to be purchased by coin as well.

[Queen of Hamsters]

definately yes, i can already see tons of others around with ZG tiger that didnt get it at lvl 60 like i did.

That mount cost me so much DKP and with having it in the BMAH it isnt as unique anymore for me so why should only PvE players suffer this tyranny. be fair and allow these other mounts to be purchased by coin as well.

It's not like just anyone can pop over to the BMAH and buy themselves a Swift Zulian Tiger...it's still only owned by 1 or 2% of the playerbase, I think it's plenty special still.

Besides, most got it when the instance was soloable and it all came down to luck.

[Caolela]

I could see Vicious mounts going on the Black Market Auction House, but even then I would voice against it.

None of the Vicious mounts should be on auction either. If you can't get enough Rated wins in a season then you shouldn't have them.

I pugged hundreds of matches in MoP the hard way over a few months to get the War Steed and Warsaber, and am half way to the War Ram. I formed groups and went to all of the Horde cities to kill the leaders for the Black War Bear; same for other PvP mounts I've earned.

They shouldn't be handed out to people who just sat in garrison farming easy gold, or AH rats.

And if you want to talk about cheating in PvP (which currently is rampant and atrocious), and selling carries, etc. then let's also talk about the rotation bots that many so-called "high-end" raiders use. Many have been busted for that as well as PvP'ers for their cheating, but Blizz is still pretty lax on cheaters/scripters by and large.

The reality is that the "snowflakes" who are "butthurt" are the derps who can't do high-end content legit and want mounts handed to them for easy gold, or from buying a script program for real money.

[Caolela]

They should be there because grinding low MMR rbg wins (like yourself) requires no skill- like every other mount on there.

1900'ish MMR/CR isn't exactly "low MMR rbg wins", which is when I quit back in 5.4 because of running into high ranked but cheat infested teams that were que dodging. If you had any experience with it you'd know that instead of hiding behind a KB talking shit. However, I still earned all of my wins and would not run with cheaters/exploiters to get 2.2k+.

Anytime you'd like to try my "no skill", just que up.

[araine]

It's not like just anyone can pop over to the BMAH and buy themselves a Swift Zulian Tiger...it's still only owned by 1 or 2% of the playerbase, I think it's plenty special still.

Besides, most got it when the instance was soloable and it all came down to luck.

Still doesnt change the fact that they have watered this one down and it will only be fair if we get to spend a million gold on the pvp ones as well really no different than what htye do to PvE mounts.

[Queen of Hamsters]

Still doesnt change the fact that they have watered this one down and it will only be fair if we get to spend a million gold on the pvp ones as well really no different than what htye do to PvE mounts.

Not really, I still consider the ZG mount to be one of the most iconic. It's still extremely coveted by many. Not only do you need insane luck for it to show up, but you also need gold cap and to be FIRST to the scene. In Legion, you'll need TEN gold caps to secure it.

Life's not fair and it's completely fine with exclusivity in an mmorpg. You can choose if you pursue the things you want, and if you choose not to for some reason, you're not entitled to those rewards.

[Caolela]

lel

1900 is shit tier kid. as are rbgs in general. you are just another oque retard who thinks he is good.

i fucking got hero and i don't even think i have 300 wins...


how about you message me in game

celestiah illidan us


and I'm not hiding, i keep getting banned because of cucks

You got Hero because you cheated or ran with cheaters, bought carries or a pilot. There is no other possible way to get a higher PvP rank/title in the game now, whether arena or RBG. You're not fooling anyone but yourself and a few noobs. Period, end of story.

Players with any integrity, like myself, quit trying to climb before they have to join the scumlords. My legit 1880 Knight-Captain and Warbound titles mean 10x more than your phony Hero.

And you think you're "good". lol Keep stroking yourself junior, while you play the shit tier "Hero".

[Serissa]

Clearly the post of someone who never played during tbc.

Are you talking about yourself? Ok then.

Just 2 words - mace rogue - do you like perma-stun?

Another 2 words - resto druid - was able to solo many teams 1 vs 2 or even 1 vs 3.

[Queen of Hamsters]

Oh shut up, dumbass. You know what I meant.
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You can't expect others to "know what you mean" when you keep moving your goalposts with every post. First raiding is mechanically easier now than in Classic, next it's "a joke" because it's not exclusive enough (which PVP never was), then it's a joke because "pvers get infinite tries", which one can argue that PVPers do as well during the seasons whilst First World racers sure as hell don't...well, you get the idea. I think the easier route for yourself, would be to stop speaking of things you clearly don't have a clue about.

[Glaziola]

Blizzard shouldnt have removed anything from the game to beginn with.

[primalmatter]

Not really, I still consider the ZG mount to be one of the most iconic. It's still extremely coveted by many. Not only do you need insane luck for it to show up, but you also need gold cap and to be FIRST to the scene. In Legion, you'll need TEN gold caps to secure it.

Life's not fair and it's completely fine with exclusivity in an mmorpg. You can choose if you pursue the things you want, and if you choose not to for some reason, you're not entitled to those rewards.

I don't know if I agree with complete exclusivity. I would like everything to stay in the game just have the method of acquiring it change. I don't see anything wrong with mounts going for millions of gold once a month or so from the bmah.

I admit though it is easier to devise systems for pve since you can simply make the mounts a 1% drop on a weekly lock out. PVP is a much trickier beast simply due to how ratings work.

[Queen of Hamsters]

Blizzard shouldnt have removed anything from the game to beginn with.

Alas, that's the game they want. Some things are easy and always obtainable, others are exclusive to the content and time that they were earned in. Not sure ANY mmorpg allows you to obtain every reward at any time without anything being exclusive to an event or a patch or such...

[RedGamer030]

None of the Vicious mounts should be on auction either.

Only if they were suddenly removed, but I would still voice against it. I worked throughout the Siege of Orgrimmar PvP Season to get my Vicious War Wolf (now Vicious War Steed) by forming my own groups for 3v3 arenas with guildies and other like-minded PvPers. Took me months to earn it but I have it now and the Feat of Strength.