Turkey bans Istanbul gay pride due to 'security fears'

[Cyberowl]

Two men kissing is distasteful to watch for your average straight male. Most men do not find it "fabulous", enjoyable or a pleasant sight, we just tolerate it.

So are fat girls in leggings. Or neckbeards.

Don't like it, don't watch. Not a reason to deny someone's rights.

[Dug]

Why? Two girls kissing is not homosexual? Or homosexuality is exclusive to dudes? Anyway, the definition of homophobia is clear, its dislike or prejudice against gay people. I have none of those. I just don't like to see them kissing or fucking for that matter.

You're homophobic to one gender and not the other. So again, hypocritical. If you don't like to see men being intimate you shouldn't be okay with women doing those same things.

[Kuntantee]

You're homophobic to one gender and not the other. So again, hypocritical. If you don't like to see men being intimate you shouldn't be okay with women doing those same things.

I am not going to bother with your bullshit classification. Did you read the simple definition I expressed? Not liking two dudes kissing neither falls to dislike nor it does to prejudice.

[Dug]

I am not going to bother with your bullshit classification. Did you read the simple definition I expressed? Not liking two dudes kissing neither falls to dislike nor it does to prejudice.

Hey whatever helps you sleep at night man. Like I said, I don't care that you're homophobic. As much as I think they're weird so long as they have no power to enact policy changes I could care less what they think or who they dislike. Same goes with racists. What I do dislike however is people without a spine trying to dance around the issue but still holding the values. Double standards at that but hey homophobia was never logical to begin with

[Endus]

Why? Two girls kissing is not homosexual? Or homosexuality is exclusive to dudes? Anyway, the definition of homophobia is clear, its dislike or prejudice against gay people. I have none of those. I just don't like to see them kissing or fucking for that matter.

You just contradicted yourself, directly, within three sentences.

If you dislike seeing two dudes kissing, that is homophobia. It's exactly the dislike you're claiming you don't have.

[Dreknar20]

If homosexulaity was against nature, it would not exist in nature.

two headed albino snakes are 'against nature' but fucked up shit happens and they still exist

[dragonvalor]

two headed albino snakes are 'against nature' but fucked up shit happens and they still exist

That's still natural lol

The only logical reason somebody could call gays unnatural is if we artificially grew them in labs

[Dreknar20]

That's still natural lol

naturally is generally used in the place of 'normal'

[Kuntantee]

You just contradicted yourself, directly, within three sentences.

If you dislike seeing two dudes kissing, that is homophobia. It's exactly the dislike you're claiming you don't have.

Not really, you are just wrong on the meaning of dislike on that sentence. I do not dislike gay people, as individuals, which is the semantic reason why "dislike" is there. I can befriend gays, have fun and socialize with them. I did in the past. What I do not like is two gay man getting intimate. If I can turn my head, I will do so.

[May90]

I am not a homophobe and I find two girl kissing MUCH better than two dudes kissing.

No, you are a homophobe. Who has lived in a society in which homosexuality is frowned upon, and this societal belief has been embedded in you. You do not find two girls kissing disgusting, because you have a sexual attraction to both of them, but you find two kissing dudes disgusting, because this situation doesn't satisfy your sexual fantasies. As long as your sexual fantasies are satisfied, you are okay with homosexuality; when they are not, suddenly you are not okay with it. It is homophobia, mate, and a very hypocritical one at that.

[Dreknar20]

Just take a look at any homophobes browsing history to see the hypocrisy of their "beliefs"

Awww the personal insults and labels

Btw people being disgusted by things they don't find sexually appealing is completely normal and hardly "excessive or irrational"

[Kuntantee]

Hey whatever helps you sleep at night man. Like I said, I don't care that you're homophobic. As much as I think they're weird so long as they have no power to enact policy changes I could care less what they think or who they dislike. Same goes with racists. What I do dislike however is people without a spine trying to dance around the issue but still holding the values. Double standards at that but hey homophobia was never logical to begin with

You are just stating your own opinion, which is factually incorrect according to the definition of homophobia. You can keep saying it, but then you would be just keep saying your opinion, which, if you ask me, quite an inane effort to make a point.

[Zathrendar]

I'm sure Saudi Arabia would be glad to host it instead.

[Dreknar20]

Same goes with racists.

guessing your definition of a racist is anyone with a white skin tone....

[Dug]

Awww the personal insults and labels

Btw people being disgusted by things they don't find sexually appealing is completely normal and hardly "excessive or irrational"

As if I'm telling you that you need to, as a straight man, go out and watch male gay porn to prove you're not a homophobe. No, I'm saying that if you see two men kiss (not an innately sexual act that people do everyday all over the world) and you feel any sort of discomfort so much so that you need to look away then you are homophobic. Specifically to gay men in this instance.

It's not even an insult in the way I'm using it. If you're homophobic just admit to it, I'm not going to try and change your mind about it.

[Endus]

naturally is generally used in the place of 'normal'

Which is a nonsensical position. By the same argument, being left-handed is "unnatural". Having red hair is "unnatural". Etc. It's not a useful turn of phrase.

Not really, you are just wrong on the meaning of dislike on that sentence. I do not dislike gay people, as individuals, which is the semantic reason why "dislike" is there. I can befriend gays, have fun and socialize with them. I did in the past. What I do not like is two gay man getting intimate. If I can turn my head, I will do so.

Insisting that your homophobia is mild and you can repress it at times is not an argument that you're not homophobic. You dislike two gay men kissing, but don't dislike hetero PDAs. That's homophobia. Period.

[Kuntantee]

No, you are a homophobe. Who has lived in a society in which homosexuality is frowned upon, and this societal belief has been embedded in you.

Aha! I was wondering when you would explode to my constant criticism of your posts. This is the point. No need to get emotional, I just think you are mostly wrong, this post included.

[Zathrendar]

No, you are a homophobe. Who has lived in a society in which homosexuality is frowned upon, and this societal belief has been embedded in you. You do not find two girls kissing disgusting, because you have a sexual attraction to both of them, but you find two kissing dudes disgusting, because this situation doesn't satisfy your sexual fantasies. As long as your sexual fantasies are satisfied, you are okay with homosexuality; when they are not, suddenly you are not okay with it. It is homophobia, mate, and a very hypocritical one at that.

Just not liking it on a visceral level isn't "homophobic". I'm not into girls and I don't find it particularly hot or appealing to see them kissing. You can water down the term to include mere visceral dislike but that doesn't do much to strengthen it...

[Dug]

guessing your definition of a racist is anyone with a white skin tone....

Nope I'm hispanic and even I know my own kind can be extremely racist. Keep playing the victim though bby <3

[Machismo]

So you think this is fabulous? I think it's rather disgusting but hey, opinions are opinions.

Then don't look at it, problem solved. Just because you don't like something, does not mean you have to force your bigotry onto others.