BREXIT - leave or remain?

[Deleted]

REALLY?!?! She just ignored 38% of Scotts voters ...

But if the UK leaves, the UK ignores 42% of all their voters!

[Flutterguy]

What would be hilarious is voting to leave and then voting to stay out of the EU because by that point other countries have left.

The Brits got it easy. We had to fight a war to leave the Empire. IN THE SNOW I might add.

[Deleted]

You mean like how the Leavers ignored 48% of British voters?

Right so the best thing to do would be to split the country, leavers can stay in one half, and remainers can stay in the other.

That sounds great.

[Tempguy]

I also don`t get why so many guys from the US are angry with the EU! Do they hate other nations/states working together like the US??? (Did they not pay some patents for the copy )

Dude. We are all about independence. We even have states here harping on that shit.

If someone suggested a city declaring independence, we'd celebrate that shit too. Independence makes our dicks hard.

[Finith]

Well I mean people here are discussing the need to nix democracy and install a "benevolent dictatorship," something like a Politburo I am guessing, so what would be the substantial difference?

There's a cast difference between a dictatorship and desiring a public that is capable of making informed choices, instead of voting for reality stars to be president, or leaving the EU because "those people". Emotion based voting is almost certainly as dangerous as any singular authoritarian outburst, both can lead to rather tragic consequences. Before the migrant crisis it is entirely unlikely that such a vote would have been possible, what exactly is it that you think caused the sea change? Are truly certain that it's a good thing? Abandoning reason isn't typically a great course of action.

[Gangresnake]

Fuck yeah freedom

[Independent voter]

You know Putin and his oligarchs are high fiving each other.

[Bollocks]

Everyone tends to assume they are impartial, rarely is that ever the case. I would argue these self described intelligent people are merely delusional.

Sacrificing people now for some perceived greater goal is easy to make when your not the one who suffers. Technocracy is inherently the opposite of Solidarity.

Well see where democracy has lead us. Gladly I bought english gold. Its going to be a shitshow when the US market opens.

[Elegiac]

Right so the best thing to do would be to split the country, leavers can stay in one half, and remainers can stay in the other.

That sounds great.

Worked for Greece, Turkey, India, and Pakistan.

Well, mostly just Greece and India. I expect the Remain half of the UK to fall into that category.

[Allerius]

I wasn't aware Britain stood for making objectively bad decisions in the name of some vague and abstract 'moral right'.

You're not as intelligent as you think you are if you think there's anything "objective" about social issues.

[Kalis]

Wales strangely voted to leave, figured they'd be down to Remain.

Wales and England are basically one country pretending it is two, so not really all that shocking. UKIP just did well in Wales.

[Flutterguy]

You know Putin and his oligarchs are high fiving each other.

I wonder if this makes Germany even more beholden to Russia.

[Graeham]

REALLY?!?! She just ignored 38% of Scotts voters ...

That's not going to end well.

At the very least Scotland needs to wait and see if any other countries take their leave of the EU before pushing to become independent of the UK.

[Sylv_]

Get the fuck out while you can.

[Theodarzna]

There's a cast difference between a dictatorship and desiring a public that is capable of making informed choices, instead of voting for reality stars to be president, or leaving the EU because "those people". Emotion based voting is almost certainly as dangerous as any singular authoritarian outburst, both can lead to rather tragic consequences. Before the migrant crisis it is entirely unlikely that such a vote would have been possible, what exactly is it that you think caused the sea change? Are truly certain that it's a good thing? Abandoning reason isn't typically a great course of action.

Right, and If one decide you can't trust the public with any decision, than fuck, why have the democratic vote? You already know the "Correct," policy, no need to consult the proles.

[Deleted]

You know Putin and his oligarchs are high fiving each other.

It's no coincidence that the Russian government is on friendl terms with many Anti-EU parties in Europe (FPÖ in AUT for instance.)

[Deleted]

You know Putin and his oligarchs are high fiving each other.

Wonder what is Junker & his band of goons doing..........

[Avainer]

I've got hungarian friends, Academics who worked in Austria, Germany and Ireland. So they know Europe/EU (your call which) and they profited from Europe/EU. And even they are highly critical of the corrupt apparatchiks in Brussels and everything they stand for.

do they have anything to do with the current goverments party tho, cuz then we could say they are kinda biased

[Elegiac]

You're not as intelligent as you think you are if you think there's anything "objective" about social issues.

The only 'social issues' at play with Brexit were either invented or only important insofar as their nuisance value. The objective benefit was and is remaining with the EU.

[Tempguy]

1 MILLION vote difference, I would like to congratulate to the people who voted leave, you did it!

All bullshit aside. I think Britain just flexed democracy on the level that shits on anything we have right now. The majority chooses, you do it.

Us on the other hand,the majority chooses, and the oligarchs ignore that shit and do what they want.