Edited my post because I don't want to fight. To be more civil, I do and I admit I don't live Conwy for the time being but Cardiff at the moment so I don't get a chance to speak it often.
It's more that I'm very cynical of the EU as an institution. They weren't interested in reform and I can't say I was a fan of the belligerent attitude the European Parliment held and Jean-Claude Juncker certainly didn't help. While they might have given us money and supported some of our institutions (£39 extra per head unless I'm mistaken) I don't think it was enough to justify the gradual loss of the UKs sovereignty.
The EU as a whole is slowly being federalized, I'm not interested in being a part of that. I had family in the now dessicated corpse that was our fishing industry up in north England. That more than anything has left it's impression.
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Gwynedd and Ceredigion did vote to remain. The EU has been good to the Welsh language, even if I am very critical of some aspects of the EU it was very good to Celtic Languages. I have zero confidence Westminster will keep up without the EU in place watching. Welsh, Scots-Gaelic, Manx Gaelic, Cornish and Irish (at least in the north) have just been put in considerable danger IMHO.
On MMO-C we learn that Anti-Fascism is locking arms with corporations, the State Department and agreeing with the CIA, But opposing the CIA and corporate America, and thinking Jews have a right to buy land and can expect tenants to pay rent THAT is ultra-Fash Nazism. Bellingcat is an MI6/CIA cut out. Clyburn Truther.
The liberal editors out there are pulling out the race card as usual. When will they realize that incessantly playing the race card is part of the reason these populist movements exist in the first place?
Not if they're not in Schengen which the UK isn't. Even if it did guess what those that had the power in Brussels were voted on. As in elected MEPs which isn't a loss of Sovereignty of the people. (Before you cry Commission they are extremely similar to the Civil servants in the UK nothing more.)
No clue, but a lot of that?
The migration policy of the EU allows all EU member citizen to travel and live freely within it's territory.. Again, EU Members.
That was clear from the get go for every nation that ever joined, also for the Brits many decades ago.
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He lives on the other side of the planet, he has as much clue about the issues as a cow knows about bicycling.
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On that note..... That vote just wiped out about 2 trillion US dollars from the global markets within one day. Nearly 1 trillion from the UK market alone.
The country fell from 5th largest economy down to 6th largest
And if the Brits don't pull the emergency brakes, shit can get a lot nastier.
If Scotland really secedes, and North Ireland gets through with a unification vote, the UK essentially collapses.
And that isn't good for anyone.
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"The pen is mightier than the sword.. and considerably easier to write with."
Good on ya Britain
Britain is "GREAT BRITAIN" again.
Now start making those awesome cars that Britain used to be good it making
Hillman, Triumph, Humber
English made cars are the best in the World.. Solid & Safe
Great Britain in 5 years time will be like Switzerland.. mark my words
Globalisation kills a country & its people.
Very intelligent people disagree with this today, and have done so in the past
Even a well known nationalist had as much foresight.
Isolationism and nationalism, especially in Europe, has always caused wars and destruction that effected the world as it was known at the time of the conflicts.
A return to such, will likely cause the same thing again.
If you want to live in peace, you better hope that the power economy construct Europe is right now remains intact.
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Yeah, I'm sorry too, took you the wrong way /handshake
Long term can only be one solution, and that is a strong united Europe with proper functional security along it's outer borders.
"The pen is mightier than the sword.. and considerably easier to write with."
Ok this is the thing. Assuming Great Britain manages to use the devaluations of its pound to increase exports, they would still rely on imports to build their cars. And guess what? the UK is about to leave the biggest trading bloc. So the UK will have less power when making those agreements, increasing the cost of their cars, which makes them less competitive.
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