First U.S. state to place gun owners on FBI database - Hawaii

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Source: http://www.reuters.com/article/us-ha...-idUSKCN0ZA3IP

Hawaii's governor signed a bill making it the first state to place its residents who own firearms in a federal criminal record database and monitor them for possible wrongdoing anywhere in the country, his office said.

The move by gun control proponents in the liberal state represents an effort to institute some limits on firearms in the face of a bitter national debate over guns that this week saw Democratic lawmakers stage a sit-in at the U.S. House of Representatives.

Hawaii Governor David Ige, a Democrat, on Thursday signed into law a bill to have police in the state enroll people into an FBI criminal monitoring service after they register their firearms as already required, his office said in a statement.

The Federal Bureau of Investigation database called "Rap Back" will allow Hawaii police to be notified when a firearm owner from the state is arrested anywhere in the United States.

Hawaii has become the first U.S. state to place firearm owners on the FBI's Rap Back, which until now was used to monitor criminal activities by individuals under investigation or people in positions of trust such as school teachers and daycare workers

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The law could affect gun owners outside Hawaii, because the state requires visitors carrying guns to register, Hunter said.

As a result, they could be added to "Rap Back" because they arrived in the state with a gun, she said. The Hawaii attorney general's office said a weapon-carrying visitor should be able to petition for removal from the national database after leaving the state.

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The law, which takes effect immediately, allows police in Hawaii to evaluate whether a firearm owner should continue to possess a gun after being arrested.

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Ige's office said he also signed into law two other firearms bills. One makes convictions for stalking and sexual assault among the criminal offenses disqualifying a person from gun ownership. The other requires firearm owners to surrender their weapons if diagnosed with a mental, behavioral or emotional disorder.

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Rap Back
The Rap Back service allows authorized agencies to receive notification of activity on individuals who hold positions of trust (e.g. school teachers, daycare workers) or who are under criminal justice supervision or investigation, thus eliminating the need for repeated background checks on a person from the same applicant agency. Prior to the deployment of Rap Back, the national criminal history background check system provided a one-time snapshot view of an individual’s criminal history status. With Rap Back, authorized agencies can receive on-going status notifications of any criminal history reported to the FBI after the initial processing and retention of criminal or civil transactions. By using fingerprint identification to identify persons arrested and prosecuted for crimes, Rap Back provides a nationwide notice to both criminal justice and noncriminal justice authorities regarding subsequent actions.

Source: https://www.fbi.gov/about-us/cjis/fi...biometrics/ngi

[Tyrianth]

One makes convictions for stalking and sexual assault among the criminal offenses disqualifying a person from gun ownership. The other requires firearm owners to surrender their weapons if diagnosed with a mental, behavioral or emotional disorder.

Those didn't already disqualify people from owning a firearm?

[Deleted]

I don't see a problem if it works

[Deleted]

You didn't had gun owners registered until now? How crazy is that?

[Tyrianth]

I don't see a problem if it works

It probably wont do much. Firearm regulations don't usually work well at a local level with no border controls to enforce them. Though Hawaii being an island makes it more difficult to smuggle in weapons from the mainland. So maybe.

[nonameelf]

Those didn't already disqualify people from owning a firearm?

Background checks aren't even required to purchase guns if you buy them from a private individual. But we can't get reasonable gun owner requirements when the right just screams bloody murder about people taking away their guns whenever the topic is brought up.

[Deleted]

You didn't had gun owners registered until now? How crazy is that?

Not at a federal level.

In fact, legally, federal are unable to require states to register gun owners at a federal level.

However, the loophole is that states themselves can register gun owners at a federal level. It is just that none have chosen to do so to date.

These days it seems easier to do everything outside of US Congress.

Change is coming, no matter how slow and whether people like it or not...

[Lightwysh]

Just another reason to not visit that meth-riddled shithole.

[TZucchini]

The law, which takes effect immediately, allows police in Hawaii to evaluate whether a firearm owner should continue to possess a gun after being arrested.

All I heard was "Obama's coming fer my guns!"

[Jaransan]

This is whack. It's literally "We made it so criminals we arrest are no longer allowed to legally obtain guns"

Why would NOT want your criminals guns taken?

[Theinquisition]

Another reason to not visit Hawaii.

[Deleted]

Another reason to not visit Hawaii.

Because you can't carry a gun? Who takes weapons on holiday

[TZucchini]

Another reason to not visit Hawaii.

What's the reason exactly?

[Moralgy]

You didn't had gun owners registered until now? How crazy is that?

People have been too worried about the list being "abused" by the government. It kinda goes into "the government is taking our guns" mentality.

[Kujako]

People have been too worried about the list being "abused" by the government. It kinda goes into "the government is taking our guns" mentality.

Thanks to the 80's NRA propaganda film Red Dawn. And yet, when I try to weaponize anthrax, suddenly they're all for limits on the 2nd amendment.

[nonameelf]

What's the reason exactly?

Apparently he's a violent criminal who would have his gun taken away under the new law.

[araine]

Just another reason to not visit that meth-riddled shithole.

You probably cant afford it either, that aside this is an excellent step in the right direction will it be enough probably not but common sense is atleast starting to be put in place.

[the game]

So now everyone in Hawaii who owns a gun is a criminal and has to go on a criminal database in Hawaii.

[araine]

What's the reason exactly?

He cant afford it and since he cant he just does like the fox does when he couldnt get those wonderful berries, he just say they are sour anyway so i dont want em, while really he would love to spend a 3 month vacation in the place if he could afford it.

[Deleted]

So now everyone in Hawaii who owns a gun is a criminal and has to go on a criminal database in Hawaii.

No... they're just on a list