Did Poland and Romania destroy the EU?

[Acidbaron]

It's funny how you need to Blatantly lie and then try and make Britain to be the bad guys. You know literally nothing and your racism against britian is pathetic.

I haven't said anything about the brits, i only addressed the competence of its government based on reports from your own media and also statements read here of how they can't seem to handle issues presented by a more global market.

I laid out in greater detail of how things are done differently elsewhere, it's not my fault that you are unwilling to accept any other alternative solution, your unwillingness doesn't make me a liar, regardless of how much you repeat that

[Cyberowl]

Yeah, except Eastern Europeans blight every country they are in, funny that eh?

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It's only failing because of the EU.

You sure about that? Because last I heard even your Leave politicians admitted that immigration won't be reduced in total, just that you will have control over it. Do you honestly think only high end immigrants will be coming now? Those markets will keep on diminishing; it's just about how fast this development is, but in the end you will be better off switching sooner than later.

[Lord Berserker]

Yes, that was what you did, I just asked you if you can fulfil your own prerequisites that you ask of others.

Well, maybe if people leveled an argument instead of simply attacking me, I'd be happy to actually discuss it

"MUH RACISM" isn't an argument. Acidbaron and Cyberowl never level arguments. They try and browbeat with their opinion, and when they fail, they attack personally just like yourself.

[Noradin]

If the boot fits. It's not my fault Europeans are so fucking piss poor at construction.

If they are, how come they take your jobs?
And do not tell us it is because of minimum wage being to low, you can set that wherever you want, the immigrants are the ones who have no control over it.

[Cyberowl]

If the boot fits. It's not my fault Europeans are so fucking piss poor at construction.

Just as piss poor as the competing British worker, because otherwise they wouldn't be competing.

[Lord Berserker]

I haven't said anything about the brits, i only addressed the competence of its government based on reports from your own media and also statements read here of how they can't seem to handle issues presented by a more global market.

I laid out in greater detail of how things are done differently elsewhere, it's not my fault that you are unwilling to accept any other alternative solution, your unwillingness doesn't make me a liar, regardless of how much you repeat that

So you Blatantly lie in both accords then, how fantastic. Here is the point you inbred simpleton.

Eastern Europeans are not running in droves to come to Belgium are they?

[PC2]

Aaaaaaaaaaaah. More of the dumb, ignorant xenophobia that reared its ugly head up after the Brits and their shitty Xenophobic Referendum.

Yes...add some more fuel to the fire!

Denying the problems of mass immigration isn't going to make them go away. No matter how many times you scream XENOPHOBIA!

[Noradin]

Well, maybe if people leveled an argument instead of simply attacking me, I'd be happy to actually discuss it

"MUH RACISM" isn't an argument. Acidbaron and Cyberowl never level arguments. They try and browbeat with their opinion, and when they fail, they attack personally just like yourself.

Pointing out that you cannot fulfil your own requirements for posting is not an personal attack, neither is pointing out that fact makes you a hypocrite.

[Acidbaron]

Yeah, except Eastern Europeans blight every country they are in, funny that eh?

They are lovely people that listen very well and don't create any issues on the work place. Statements like that make me wonder if you actually ever worked construction and if this hatred doesn't simply stem from oneliners and propaganda about how they are stealing your jobs, while all you have said so far points to a problem with your government not migration.

Since if Belgium can do it, a country that follows EU regulation almost to the point of annoyance for its citizens surely the great UK can provide a similar alternative within the EU guide lines

[Lord Berserker]

Just as piss poor as the competing British worker, because otherwise they wouldn't be competing.

Ah yes, the Lazy pathetic British worker, it's all HIS fault right?

[Noradin]

Denying the problems of mass immigration isn't going to make them go away. No matter how many times you scream XENOPHOBIA!

Neither makes blaming problems that have other causes on immigration make them go away.
Most of the problems they blame on immigration (like housing and hospital waiting times) would be worse if not for the immigration they blame for them.

Do you believe house prices would go down if construction becomes more expensive because there are less workers?
Do you think waiting times in hospitals get better when you kick out all those doctors and nurses?

[Cyberowl]

Well, maybe if people leveled an argument instead of simply attacking me, I'd be happy to actually discuss it

"MUH RACISM" isn't an argument. Acidbaron and Cyberowl never level arguments. They try and browbeat with their opinion, and when they fail, they attack personally just like yourself.

First you accuse Acid of racism, then you say racism isn't an argument. First you say when arguments fail, we use personal attacks. Next thing you do is use personal attacks.

Oh my...

[Lord Berserker]

Pointing out that you cannot fulfil your own requirements for posting is not an personal attack, neither is pointing out that fact makes you a hypocrite.

Guess that just makes me more European

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First you accuse Acid of racism, then you say racism isn't an argument. First you say when arguments fail, we use personal attacks. Next thing you do is use personal attacks.

Oh my...

Just fitting in with the Europeans then right?

[Cyberowl]

Ah yes, the Lazy pathetic British worker, it's all HIS fault right?

Where did I call the British worker lazy and pathetic? Just said if some immigrant who is lazy still gets hired over the British one, the British one wasn't better in that regard.

[Acidbaron]

Well, maybe if people leveled an argument instead of simply attacking me, I'd be happy to actually discuss it

"MUH RACISM" isn't an argument. Acidbaron and Cyberowl never level arguments. They try and browbeat with their opinion, and when they fail, they attack personally just like yourself.

If you look on the previous page i laid out in detail an alternative plan to dealing with immigrant workers from the EU zone, i addressed minimum wage, illegal workers, i even pointed out programs to help the local population get a job.

Your reply was an attack, followed up by attacking my country in the one after and so forth. You are aware of what you post right? Since you are quite the hypocrite now

[Lord Berserker]

Where did I call the British worker lazy and pathetic? Just said if some immigrant who is lazy still gets hired over the British one, the British one wasn't better in that regard.

"I didn't call the British worker lazy, just worse than the Polish"

[Acidbaron]

First you accuse Acid of racism, then you say racism isn't an argument. First you say when arguments fail, we use personal attacks. Next thing you do is use personal attacks.

Oh my...

Do have to say this is a fun ride, watching one digging themselves deeper and deeper. Wonder if his account will last the night

[Lord Berserker]

If you look on the previous page i laid out in detail an alternative plan to dealing with immigrant workers from the EU zone, i addressed minimum wage, illegal workers, i even pointed out programs to help the local population get a job.

Your reply was an attack, followed up by attacking my country in the one after and so forth. You are aware of what you post right? Since you are quite the hypocrite now

Just fitting in with the Europeans afterall, and no, your argument was pointless because your stupid socialist shit wouldn't work in an actual country.

[Cyberowl]

"I didn't call the British worker lazy, just worse than the Polish"

Yeah, please quote me on that. Because so far I haven't said anything like that. My whole point is that you only compete with people who do a similar job.

[sarahtasher]

That's curious, because I distinctively recall an obscure story in a obscure book about a dude whose whole nation had been hired/enslaved to do some bricklaying in a certain country. I think he was called Moses....

(Related : in most western countries, construction jobs were never especially popular-in France, even well before the 20th century, construction workers were the equivalent of dastardly foreigners ''stealing ur jobz''-Savoyards and Auvergnats.