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    Man ignores police demands and is fatally shot

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    FRESNO, Calif. (AP) — Despite demands that he "Show both hands!" and shouts that "You're going to get shot man!" a 19-year-old in California refused to pull one hand from behind his back and to stop walking toward Fresno police. Officers then shot him four times, killing him.

    Dramatic and graphic body-camera video shows the man, identified as Dylan Noble, was struck twice after he already had gone down from the first two bullets.

    "Get on the ground now!" officers continually shout at Noble in the video released by police Wednesday. One yells: "Drop whatever you have in your hand!"

    It turned out Noble, who was white, was unarmed and had only a small, empty plastic container with an unknown purpose in his hand, police Chief Jerry Dyer said. Officers, who had been looking for a man with a gun when they pulled him over, had no way of knowing that with his refusal to cooperate, Dyer saud,

    One officer shot him twice as Noble yelled that he hated his life. He was still moving his arms, and officers were still shouting for him to stop, as he lay on the ground. Another shot from the same officer and a fourth from a second officer finally made him stop.

    At a news conference, Dyer acknowledged the video is gruesome, but he said it was important for the public to see. He said he prays it won't spark violence amid simmering anti-police sentiment in Fresno and elsewhere.

    "Tensions are high," Dyer said. "In some cases we are one spark away from a forest fire. And I pray this video doesn't serve as that spark ... This is not a time to become violent."

    Dyer said he intended to make the video public last Friday, but he held off because of the shooting deaths of police in Dallas the night before. The video was shown last week to Noble's father and stepfather.

    Noble's death on June 25 came more than a week before police killed two black men in shootings in Louisiana and Minnesota. Those shootings last week sparked protests around the country.

    The video shows Noble first draws officers' attention when he screeched his truck's tires while they were searching for an armed man.

    Noble pulls into a gas station, and officers order him to put both hands out of the window. Noble puts his left hand out the window, concealing his right hand, and officers shout "both your hands!"

    Noble gets out of the truck and walks away from officers, at first putting both hands in the air. He turns around and walks toward officers, raising his left hand but putting his right hand behind his back.

    He continues to walk toward officers with his right hand concealed and his left hand in the air when the shots began coming.

    His mother, who declined to watch the videos, is seeking damages from the city for her son's death.

    Stuart Chandler, the attorney for Noble's mother, Veronica Nelson, put out a statement saying that he urged the police chief to release the video Wednesday. "We are pleased to discover from the media that Chief Dyer is belatedly providing the body camera footage to the general public," Chandler said.

    Noble's mother and attorney said in a claim filed with the city that the officers used excessive force, and they called the death inexcusable. The claim does not say how much Nelson seeks from the city.

    Dyer, who has asked the FBI do its own investigation into the shooting, said he has yet to conclude if officers used excessive force.
    What do you think, suicide by police?

    Does it bother you he was unarmed?

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    Suicide by policy.. prob. who knows. dont care, fail to follow instructions can/may result in bad ending for you.. just do what the cops say, when they say it.. period!

    bother'ed he was unarmed... Nope, cops did not know that, he made many gestures like he was going to do/pull/reach something. i dont even care they shot him when he was on the ground.. he continued to reach, move and not follow commands, until they KNOW there is no gun/weapon. the threat is real. period. move on.

    wait.. he was white.. where is WLM we need to protest , block traffic , chant hate speech... omg LOL

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    Quote Originally Posted by zenkai View Post
    What do you think, suicide by police?

    Does it bother you he was unarmed?
    Idiot ignored police and is dead ... police did their job

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    Suicide by Police.

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    Quote Originally Posted by zenkai View Post
    Does it bother you he was unarmed?
    No. He was told what to do and he refused to do it. He appeared to be a threat, and they're trained to end those threats. He was given a choice and he made it.

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    "Noble's mother and attorney said in a claim filed with the city that the officers used excessive force, and they called the death inexcusable. The claim does not say how much Nelson seeks from the city."
    She should have taught him to listen to police when they say hands up.

    Not the police's falut he didn't comply and with it being in America the chances of a perp having a gun are a hundred fold more likely than elsewhere in the world - prompting such reactions and use of deadly force.

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    He's white yo. Nobody will give a fuck!

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    Saw this video this morning. Poor guy, clearly had some issues going on in his head. That said, in this circumstance, when you watch the video... the police didn't have a choice. You're telling me you're going to slip your hand behind your back and walk toward the cops? Then when you're down, you're going to reach your hands into your pants?

    Suicide by cop open-and-shut case.

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    Feel bad for any business owner in Fresno. The infamous "they" are gonna start burning down buildings and destroying public property.

    Noble,Who was white
    Oh shit never mind. A formal investigation by the FBI and a potential wrongful death/excessive force lawsuit? Well shit on me if that doesn't sound reasonable.

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    Seems like he followed each step from "how to guarantee the police will shoot you" guidebook.
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    Seems exactly what should have happened.
    Hopefully the mother doesn't get a single fucking dollar.

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    I saw the video, he was either trying to scare the police or wanted to get shot.

    He kept deliberately acting like he was going to pull a gun. He repeated the same gestures on the ground.

    Of course people will come up in here like "where are the protest, blase blase" those same people are either trolling or have no idea about what people are actually made about. The officers certainly acted accordingly, if not tragically.

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    #WhiteLivesMatter

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    The police are fucking scary. This guy fucked up for sure, but is our country really to the point where "not complying" = death when it comes to the cops? Are they cops or a military attache in the middle of a warzone? Are they police and us citizens, or do we become fucking hostages the minute they "detain" us?

    Fuck that. I always tell my husband, "You get stopped by a cop: you don't speak, you don't argue, you don't bargain. You just sit down, shut up, do what they tell you. They own you until they decide to let you go."

    Someone in the thread said in America the odds of the person having a gun are sky high, hence the trigger happy police... I agree. Yet nutballs will still argue that we need MORE GUNS out on the streets and in everyone's hands.

    Do you think this man would have been shot dead in England or France? I bet not. He'd be in a mental hospital getting help, not on the morgue's table being prepared for an early grave.

    People will keep on defending guns and acting like having an armed populace "makes us safe." It doesn't do shit. It just kills us and makes our police on edge 24/7.
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    "One officer shot him twice as Noble yelled that he hated his life."

    Suicide by cop.

    Good on the police chief for releasing the full video as people were immediately protesting the youtube video that started after the second shot.

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    When mmo-champ left wingers turn on you, you know you've done wrong.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Darsithis View Post
    No. He was told what to do and he refused to do it. He appeared to be a threat, and they're trained to end those threats. He was given a choice and he made it.
    I'd actually commend the police for waiting as long as they did to shoot. Army training is MUCH MUCH different, half step forward= 2 in the chest and 1 in the head

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    "Victim's" fault.

    Do news like this purely exist to rile up because it involved policemen shooting at someone?

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    Not complying with the police = capital punishment.

    Your country is fucked up.

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    Not doing what cops tell you - Punishable by death.

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