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  1. #321
    Come on Joni, wrap it up.

  2. #322
    Quote Originally Posted by pacox View Post
    Exceptionalism is to think one is above the rules, "outside the system". Its dangerous and self defeating way to go about business. It makes one narcissistic and blind to the truths of reality. Our economy isn't strong because of exceptionalism, its because we want to be the best at the game. Exceptionalism means we are somehow above it and impervious to economics.

    Our military is strong due to hard work, in R&D and on the field, not because we are some how...exceptional.

    Our schools are not exceptional until the college level, and even then our system is heavily flawed. Our colleges are good because of greed, greed attracts people, it doesn't do much for uplifting people since many leave school riddled in debt. The debt bubble will burst soon enough. Education is a major export of the US (meaning people come hear for education and then leave) but we're not capitalizing on it at home.

    Its known that the US sits on extremely fertile land, which is why we shouldn't take it for granted. Exceptionalism tends to blind people from reality.
    Exceptionalism to me means that we have aspects that are exceptional. You can make and eat an exceptional cake for example. We don't do anything that other people couldn't do if they applied themselves.

    I think your reading too much into the word.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hubcap View Post
    Exceptionalism to me means that we have aspects that are exceptional. You can make and eat an exceptional cake for example. We don't do anything that other people couldn't do if they applied themselves.

    I think your reading too much into the word.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_exceptionalism

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    The funny thing is at a convention you are almost guaranteed to be cheered at the cheers seem pretty lack luster. Like even a lot of Republicans are like "so... we dont got anything besides emails and Benghazi after all this time.. fuck.. we might be in trouble"

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    Quote Originally Posted by jayeffkay View Post
    More USA chants at this event then a wrestling match...
    Don't worry, at the DNC convention instead of chants of USA, they will have the chants "Pigs in a blanket, fry em like bacon" and "what do we want" "dead cops".

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yggdrasil View Post
    The funny thing is at a convention you are almost guaranteed to be cheered at the cheers seem pretty lack luster. Like even a lot of Republicans are like "so... we dont got anything besides emails and Benghazi after all this time.. fuck.. we might be in trouble"
    A lot the Republican leaders didn't even bother to attend.

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    How many times did Joni mention Trump? Any guesses? I don't think I heard a single one.
    What are we gonna do now? Taking off his turban, they said, is this man a Jew?
    'Cause they're working for the clampdown
    They put up a poster saying we earn more than you!
    When we're working for the clampdown
    We will teach our twisted speech To the young believers
    We will train our blue-eyed men To be young believers

  8. #328
    Exactly, it means a lot of different things to a lot of different people. It's like asking a group of 20 people what the "American dream" means to them.
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    Chants of "Lock her up".

    Love it.

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    This poor guy has tried to get the crowd chanting "you ess eh" for like 10 times now. They're just not into it.

  11. #331
    Quote Originally Posted by Sydänyö View Post
    This poor guy has tried to get the crowd chanting "you ess eh" for like 10 times now. They're just not into it.
    They have been there for awhile, and I believe it's 11:30 pm right now.

    These do drag on for a rather long time.

  12. #332
    Quote Originally Posted by Sydänyö View Post
    This poor guy has tried to get the crowd chanting "you ess eh" for like 10 times now. They're just not into it.
    I don't think they have a mic on the crowd, conventions are pretty noisy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hubcap View Post
    Exactly, it means a lot of different things to a lot of different people. It's like asking a group of 20 people what the "American dream" means to them.
    White picket fences everywhere including a giant one on the border with Mexico.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hubcap View Post
    Exactly, it means a lot of different things to a lot of different people. It's like asking a group of 20 people what the "American dream" means to them.
    Exactly, I think I've explained what it means to me and why it makes me cringe.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pacox View Post
    Exactly, I think I've explained what it means to me and why it makes me cringe.
    It equates to fascism for you for some reason.
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  16. #336
    Certainly America is exceptional in many ways, can't really become the richest, most powerful, and most influential nation in the history of the world without some special qualities. However, the idea of "American exceptionalism" goes way beyond that and almost implies that anything American is inherently better just by virtue of being American, and, not coincidentally, is an idea typically subscribed to by people who tend not to be all that exceptional themselves.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kronik85 View Post
    White picket fences everywhere including a giant one on the border with Mexico.
    There are already numerous barriers built on the border already, fences, walls, barricades. Some have even been built during the Presidency of Obama.

    but, but, but, muh wall is racialismist!

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    This convention needs a bit more John Cena.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Super Friendly Kitty Cat View Post
    There are already numerous barriers built on the border already, fences, walls, barricades. Some have even been built during the Presidency of Obama.

    but, but, but, muh wall is racialismist!
    If you say so. I never knew walls were capable of opinions but the more you know. /shrug

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    I will say this, they need to cut back on the religion.

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