91-yr old model citizen wants secret surveillance data on him deleted

[Zecora]

Guy is a frigging hero for fighting the insane surveilance society, I really hope he wins his case!

[urasim]

http://www.thefreedictionary.com/surveillance

Oh look, I can do it too.

You're just proving yourself wrong. You can spy and have surveillance on someone in public or private. Those words have nothing to do with a locations. When those things become illegal is when you do it on private property or recording people in public, in some countries, without permission.

[Jonnusthegreat]

You're just proving yourself wrong. You can spy and have surveillance on someone in public or private. Those words have nothing to do with a locations. When those things become illegal is when you do it on private property or recording people in public, in some countries, without permission.

Laws are public knowledge. What they were doing was never secret.

[urasim]

Laws are public knowledge. What they were doing was never secret.

Definition of spy
transitive verb
1
: to watch secretly usually for hostile purposes
2
: to catch sight of : see
3
: to search or look for intensively —usually used with out <spy out places fit for vending…goods — S. E. Morison>
intransitive verb
1
: to observe or search for something : look
2
: to watch secretly as a spy

Doesn't have to be secretive, and I never said it needs to be a secret.

Some of the data was gathered using devices which were a secret to him at the time, but that doesn't mean it remained a secret.

You can spy on people in the public. You're wrong.

[Puupi]

if u dnt wanna be monitored dnt go outside, dnt use social media, dnt use search engines, and just hand out your personal info to people who need it like your utilitys and bank, thats what i do and i have lots of privacy addons for firefox and i dnt use social media or search engines

Somehow I'm not surprised.

[Alvito]

How about not letting them into the country in the first place?

Holy shit at the amount of resources wasted on a 91 year old. But yeah, governments in general are skittish on anything going against their current policies.

Ah yes, this is the problem nobody told terrorists they can't enter the country and if they are here they must leave. Such a simple solution and nobody thought of it yet.

[Deleted]

You shouldn't be treated as a criminal for protesting. If that's all he has done, I hope he wins.

Nope, but seeing a fascist police state everywhere (usually everywhere else except where it actually is) tends to be a sign of a some sort of paranoia that bears investigation for the person's own good.

[Sunseeker]

On the one hand, I don't have an issue with the government keeping records of their citizen's public movements and activities. On the other hand, it seems like an awful lot of pointless data gathering on a person who has done little more than strongly voice their opinion.

[Jonnusthegreat]

Definition of spy
transitive verb
1
: to watch secretly usually for hostile purposes
2
: to catch sight of : see
3
: to search or look for intensively —usually used with out <spy out places fit for vending…goods — S. E. Morison>
intransitive verb
1
: to observe or search for something : look
2
: to watch secretly as a spy

Doesn't have to be secretive, and I never said it needs to be a secret.

Some of the data was gathered using devices which were a secret to him at the time, but that doesn't mean it remained a secret.

You can spy on people in the public. You're wrong.

Did you miss the post literally right above this one?

[Revi]

Nope, but seeing a fascist police state everywhere (usually everywhere else except where it actually is) tends to be a sign of a some sort of paranoia that bears investigation for the person's own good.

Not doing much to prove him wrong with these kinds of actions against him and his family.

[urasim]

Did you miss the post literally right above this one?

Elaborate, FFS.. This isn't how you communicate with people.

[Deleted]

Not doing much to prove him wrong with these kinds of actions against him and his family.

Yeah. Then again, every time some nutjobe performs a mass shooting, someone asks "why wasn't this guy under surveillance?"

Usually the answer is "because you opposed all forms of such stuff."

But I agree that it should be reserved for actually proven criminals (or suspected for a good reason) or diagnosed crazies.

[Deleted]

Somehow I'm not surprised.

why /10charsmeh