Pope Francis slams poland for not taking refugees

[Fruujik]

Socialism and communism are very different ideas even in their very axioms. Socialism is not a form of communism by any extent of imagination.

Debatable but I dont want to go in to further derail (and get banned) by discussing it. However you obvioulsy dont know the difference between nationalism and fascism, which is a pity.

[Holofernes]

How many immigrants is the Vatican City taking in?

Actually there are some refugees in Vatican. on a percentage they are pretty strong compared to other countries.

[Incredibale]

Neutered, feminized : zerof...credibiltyzed.

Can't tell if you agree or disagree with what I said. For the hell of it I'll also call them cucks. Cucks because they're handing over their woman (Europa) willingly to a stranger, either because it gets them off because they've become anti-western or they're weak little shells of men.

I know lefties hate the term cuck because it's an apt description for them.

[Deleted]

Muh demography.

Countries in Europe have been experiencing what others call ''demographic crisis'' for more than 20 years now - and their economies are functioning just fine, some are among the fastest growing in Europe as a matter of fact while France whos population is growing has been stagnating for a decade and more now.

At least now you are speaking honestly about the replacement point which I made in the other thread.

So what you're saying is that the effects of the demographic crisis we are running into (that we haven't experienced yet obviously) as described by economists all across the field are really just mumbo jumbo?
Why?

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Neutered, feminized : zerof...credibiltyzed.

Nothing is more manly than social unrest.
We have a saying that goes "we're all gay with someone else's arsehole".
People asking for increasingly tense social scenario to the point of extreme simply dont know what they're wishing for.

[Spectral]

are you saying he is a hypocrite?

The Pope? Of course. He's quite possibly the world's greatest hypocrite. He sits on a mountain of wealth, in literal gilded halls while telling other people they need to give their money away.

[Sama-81]

Because that is from within the country not from people whom you can monitor in camps.
Also WW2

My point was that the act the boy committed, would have been easier to prevent than the one in France, from a security perspective. Using that as an argument, wasn't really a good strategy. In regards to WWII...well, not even worthy of a comment, to be honest. Just comes off as desperate, no matter the merit of the actual opinion.

[Cizr]

I actually never heard from a respectable news source that he was yelling Allah o Akbar. " I am German" was the phrase every one were reporting. And later they reported he was very proud of being born the same day as Hitler and had Nazi roots.
Also please provide sources.

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Socialism and communism are very different ideas even in their very axioms. Socialism is not a form of communism by any extent of imagination.

Why bother? You would just claim that they are unreliable because they say something you dont want to see. Use google my friend,Im not gonna waste my time on spoonfeeding liars and ignorants

[Amerrol]

Ehh i wanted to use some bad words here about this Pope, but i dont want to get infracted.

Fortunately Poland is very homogenic and xenophobic country, so noone will actually listen to that guy.

And we are not afraid, we are reasonable to not take them.

It's also very religious. Many people, especially the older generation, put a ton of stock in what the Pope says. While it may not be with the same fervor the country had as a whole with Pope John Paul II, many may change their minds now that the current one has appealed to them.

[HumbleDuck]

Why bother? You would just claim that they are unreliable because they say something you dont want to see. Use google my friend,Im not gonna waste my time on spoonfeeding liars and ignorants

Good to know that Reuters, BBC and German officials are liars and ignorant.

[Sama-81]

Socialism and communism are very different ideas even in their very axioms. Socialism is not a form of communism by any extent of imagination.

And socialism, as a form of governance, and social democracy aren't even remotely similar. Something particularly North Americans seem to have a hard time grasping. They aren't more akin than social democracy is to most all other relevant and somewhat modern -isms - certainly less so than with capitalism, for one. In fact, social democrats tend to look down upon socialists as something that shouldn't be touched even with a 10 feet pole, and historically speaking, the two have been almost outright mortal enemies. In Sweden, there certainly isn't the least bit of love lost between the Social Democrat Party and the Left Party till this day. Which is one of the reasons why the former prefer a minority government, to having to rule together with the latter.

[HumbleDuck]

My point was that the act the boy committed, would have been easier to prevent than the one in France, from a security perspective. Using that as an argument, wasn't really a good strategy. In regards to WWII...well, not even worthy of a comment, to be honest. Just comes off as desperate, no matter the merit of the actual opinion.

I linked a study about links between 20th centaury ethnic cleansing ( including many of WW2) and nationalism in a previous post.

Edit: nationalism as a growing ideology within a country is much harder to control than immigrants. I see it the same way Islamic fundamentalism is much more problematic in Iraq than EU.

[Sama-81]

I linked a study about links between 20th centaury ethnic cleansing ( including many of WW2) and nationalism in a previous post.

Well, it would be very easy indeed to link ethnic cleansing to socialism as well, but I already know all the responses ("communism isn't socialism" (show ANY type of other governance, that is MORE akin to socialism in practice), "not TRUE communism" (theoretically, maybe, practically however, that's EXACTLY how communism looks), etc etc). Arguments that, for that matter, also happen to work when talking about nationalism, coincidentally, but that discussion is not only doomed before hand but also pointless. So better not open that can of worms.

[tj119]

The pope is a disgusting political puppet. He's a piece of shit.

[Fruujik]

So what you're saying is that the effects of the demographic crisis we are running into (that we haven't experienced yet obviously) as described by economists all across the field are really just mumbo jumbo?
Why?

Eastern and Central Europe have been experiencing real ''demographic crisis'' for 20 years now, losing dozens of thousands of people in just two decades.
Yet their economies are among the fastest growing in Europe.

As to why, the idea seems to be build on a false assumption.

But the real question is whether a declining population matters. Assume that there is a smooth downward curve of population, with it decreasing by 20 percent. If the downward curve in gross domestic product matched the downward curve in population, per capita GDP would be unchanged. By this simplest measure, the only way there would be a problem is if GDP fell more than population, or fell completely out of sync with the population, creating negative and positive bubbles. That would be destabilizing.

But there is no reason to think that GDP would fall along with population. The capital base of society, its productive plant as broadly understood, will not dissolve as population declines. Moreover, assume that population fell but GDP fell less — or even grew. Per capita GDP would rise and, by that measure, the population would be more prosperous than before.

One of the key variables mitigating the problem of decreasing population would be continuing advances in technology to increase productivity. We can call this automation or robotics, but growths in individual working productivity have been occurring in all productive environments from the beginning of industrialization, and the rate of growth has been intensifying. Given the smooth and predictable decline in population, there is no reason to believe, at the very least, that GDP would not fall less than population. In other words, with a declining population in advanced industrial societies, even leaving immigration out as a factor, per capita GDP would be expected to grow.

Source.

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Eastern and Central Europe have been experiencing real ''demographic crisis'' for 20 years now, losing dozens of thousands of people in just two decades.
Yet their economies are among the fastest growing in Europe.

As to why, the idea seems to be build on a false assumption.


Source.

Ahahah
Eastern European economies are growing to get on par with the rest of Europe. The demographic crisis they are running into is recognised as an issue by economists across the board.
Surely, a blog can tell us how if we have robots working for us our GDP increases while population falls.
Which is a ridiculous thing to say obviously, as predictions are made with the means you're in possess NOW, not a wishy washy future.
Plus again, funny, you're claiming 5 million people can destroy European culture, and yet you're completely unaffected by the catastrophic consequences a demographic crisis would actually have on european culture.

[Mistame]

I know lefties hate the term cuck because it's an apt description for them.

I'm not a "leftie" and while I don't "hate" the word, I find that the way most people use it invalidates whatever the they're trying to say. It's like ending your post with, "- Signed, Retard"

[kail]

Suprised the title wasn't changed yet.

[Gaidax]

While I'm not immigrants lover myself, I'd say it's quite a bit of a stretch between that and terrorists.

[sarahtasher]

Can't tell if you agree or disagree with what I said. For the hell of it I'll also call them cucks. Cucks because they're handing over their woman (Europa) willingly to a stranger, either because it gets them off because they've become anti-western or they're weak little shells of men.

I know lefties hate the term cuck because it's an apt description for them.

Ah, and here we go : ''dah pure white wumin are stolen by the filthy strangers''-one again, that they consent or not is a moot point. ''Cucks'' is a pathetic insult, that make instantly think to a fedorah wearing dude living in the basement of his mom, whose only hope of ''scoring'' would indeed be the execution of every non white male and all white ''liberals''

[Deleted]

Can the polish migrant workers go back to Poland? Same with Orbans people.

Seriously, never met such cold people as them. Also cut any moneu they get, build a wall so they can * live like they want.