Poll: What do you think of cross faction communication?

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  1. #21
    Cross communication should never be allowed, in any multi faction game. Thus by Blizzard's standards it will happen, as they continue to break this game from it's original form. And dumb the game down more each time.

    Ugh. Cross-communication only helps break the 4th wall, the stage illusion that 2 factions are in conflict. Are they in conflict? No they speak different languages? Yet they can talk to one another. Ugh.

    A mess of a proposed change. Ugh.

  2. #22
    It was like that in beta? Undeads could speak common. It was scrapped because it led to too much toxicity and vitriol
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  3. #23
    Quote Originally Posted by Zethras View Post
    And... why can’t death knights communicate with other DKs using the scourge language? Hmm? Blizzard?
    Because there's no such thing as Scourge language.

  4. #24
    Quote Originally Posted by nomorepriest View Post
    Lol.. Who uses that?
    people that have friends on opposite faction?

  5. #25
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    Can't pandaren do that already?
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  6. #26
    Quote Originally Posted by Vineri View Post
    Cross communication should never be allowed, in any multi faction game. Thus by Blizzard's standards it will happen, as they continue to break this game from it's original form. And dumb the game down more each time.

    Ugh. Cross-communication only helps break the 4th wall, the stage illusion that 2 factions are in conflict. Are they in conflict? No they speak different languages? Yet they can talk to one another. Ugh.

    A mess of a proposed change. Ugh.
    Cause no one on either side of a conflict ever speak the same language or ever maybe feel like someone on the other side might not necessarily be their enemy.

    That said, I think it actually worked in vanilla if both parties had the curse of tongues debuff from warlocks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nnyco View Post
    never heard about that its against the rules, but what i would like to see that they add this to pandas too
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  8. #28
    Man, I love it when Blizzard don't know what they are doing.

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  9. #29
    Quote Originally Posted by Vineri View Post
    Cross communication should never be allowed, in any multi faction game. Thus by Blizzard's standards it will happen, as they continue to break this game from it's original form. And dumb the game down more each time.

    Ugh. Cross-communication only helps break the 4th wall, the stage illusion that 2 factions are in conflict. Are they in conflict? No they speak different languages? Yet they can talk to one another. Ugh.

    A mess of a proposed change. Ugh.
    They can speak the same language, so the concept of a language barrier makes no sense. If you look at the lore of the Demon Hunter, it makes perfect sense that they can speak Cross Faction. Conflict does not necessarily prevent any form of communication.

  10. #30
    Quote Originally Posted by BloodElf4Life View Post
    Can't pandaren do that already?
    Yeah, as of 7.0.3 Pandaren don't have a language barrier anymore either. Never made sense to have one anyway.

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  11. #31
    Quote Originally Posted by AwkwardSquirtle View Post
    They can speak the same language, so the concept of a language barrier makes no sense. If you look at the lore of the Demon Hunter, it makes perfect sense that they can speak Cross Faction. Conflict does not necessarily prevent any form of communication.
    Naw. The horde comes from a different world. Only a few linguists can translate. The means of communication is speculative, other than that each side understood the other, where alliances were formed. It could have been hand gestures or body motions, but it wasn't speech.

    Saying 2 races from 2 different worlds speak the same language breaks the 4th wall.

  12. #32
    Quote Originally Posted by Eliessa View Post
    thoughts on this? and isn't it clearly stated in the rules that you get banned/silenced for communicating with the other faction?
    thats for communicating using letters and numbers that translate to words in alliance/horde. like saying "101 101" in horde, says "zug zug" to alliance. And there are ways in alliance to say things like "u l0se" to horde.
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  13. #33
    Yes its against TOS and bannable, Iron Foe or some epic mace from BRD back in vanilla used to let you speak in dwarvish or something. A lot of people got banned (horde) for talking with dwarven alliance.

    Edit: maybe it was Curse of Tongues back when it made you speak demonic or something.

  14. #34
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vineri View Post
    Naw. The horde comes from a different world. Only a few linguists can translate. The means of communication is speculative, other than that each side understood the other, where alliances were formed. It could have been hand gestures or body motions, but it wasn't speech.

    Saying 2 races from 2 different worlds speak the same language breaks the 4th wall.
    Undead, tauren, trolls, goblins, blood elves, and pandaren are all native to Azeroth. The only two races not native to Azeroth that are playable are the draenei and orcs.

  15. #35
    Quote Originally Posted by Zethras View Post
    And... why can’t death knights communicate with other DKs using the scourge language? Hmm? Blizzard?
    Is there a scourge language?

  16. #36
    Makes sense and I'm actually surprised Blizzard is allowing it. Honestly at this point I'm surprised we can't really speak to the opposite faction anyways, but I've never really cared for a lot of the forced faction tension.

  17. #37
    Quote Originally Posted by Eliessa View Post
    thoughts on this? and isn't it clearly stated in the rules that you get banned/silenced for communicating with the other faction?
    wtf are you talking about lol?
    You know you can add people from Alliance on Btag via an in game function. Right click their name, friend.

    Absolutely not bannable.
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  18. #38
    Quote Originally Posted by Vineri View Post
    Naw. The horde comes from a different world. Only a few linguists can translate. The means of communication is speculative, other than that each side understood the other, where alliances were formed. It could have been hand gestures or body motions, but it wasn't speech.

    Saying 2 races from 2 different worlds speak the same language breaks the 4th wall.
    Except World of Warcraft has both factions together for at least, what, 20+ years now? And a lot of races study and learn languages, and in time of war they need to speak a common tongue (Or attempt to). It's to no surprise that eventually both Alliance and Horde will speak a common language that every single race on their side will understand, and with a lot of neutral factions whom probably speak their respective factions language too -- will create another, or learn each others.

    It's very practical and, to some extent, required to have a language that is near universal for your own kind to understand and easily communicate with one another. Would be kind of stupid and near impossible to communicate with your allies when needed most. Uh oh, Jerry the orc can't speak to Mary, the forsaken! And on that note, Forsaken know Common just like the alliance but it was taken away.

  19. #39
    Quote Originally Posted by RAHelllord View Post
    Undead, tauren, trolls, goblins, blood elves, and pandaren are all native to Azeroth. The only two races not native to Azeroth that are playable are the draenei and orcs.
    Draenei .. hmm That might be a source of translation, yet never explained.

    Horde don't speak common. Orcs don't speak common. Undead don't speak. Trolls, and the other playable characters all allied themselves with the Horde, thus learning their language.

    Either way, however anyone looks at it, saying both sides become full linguists, capable of instant translations is ridiculous. It was never that way before, change it now, and 4th wall crumbles.

  20. #40
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vineri View Post
    Draenei .. hmm That might be a source of translation, yet never explained.

    Horde don't speak common. Orcs don't speak common. Undead don't speak. Trolls, and the other playable characters all allied themselves with the Horde, thus learning their language.

    Either way, however anyone looks at it, saying both sides become full linguists, capable of instant translations is ridiculous. It was never that way before, change it now, and 4th wall crumbles.
    The undead are raised Lordaeron citizen. They, by definition, speak perfect common because that is where a large part of the Stormwind citizen come from after Arthas displaced them. They don't speak it ingame because Blizzard removed it due to flaming and trolling in PVP. The Draenei learned common quickly thanks to the mages, as they have spells (or a glyph in MOP) that allows them to quickly learn and understand any language. All other Azeroth races had either skirmishes or trades with other races, thus learned the language of the enemy to understand intel, or to be able to trade with their partners. Especially Blood Elves are mostly fluent in common because they were allied to the alliance back in Warcraft 3, shortly before Arthas become the Lich King and slightly redecorated their home.

    There are dozens of lore reasons why it doesn't make sense that you can't talk to the other faction. Night elves and blood elves were one and the same people before the sundering, undead and humans were the same, just from a different kingdom but they had a lot of commerce with each other. Tauren and elves traded regularly, goblins traded with everybody, at all times. Trolls are the only real exception because they got shunned as barbarians for their voodoo and rampant cannibalism, as well as regularly eating the other races when they encountered them.
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