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    Volunteer for "Shoot/Don’t Shoot" demo, get shot and killed by a US cop

    Source: http://www.news-press.com/story/news...ey=&autologin=
    Link: http://kdvr.com/2016/08/09/woman-acc...ce-department/

    A woman was shot to death during a “shoot or don’t shoot” training exercise Tuesday at the Punta Gorda Police Academy, according to police.

    Punta Gorda police Chief Tom Lewis said the woman was “mistakenly struck with a live round” during a Citizens Academy scenario designed to simulate the use of lethal force. It’s not clear how the apparent fatal ammunition mix-up occurred.

    The woman, identified as Mary Knowlton, was randomly selected to participate in the exercise as roughly 35 people watched.

    She was shot multiple times during a role-play exercise in which the officer pretended to be the “bad guy,” with Knowlton playing the victim, a photographer covering the event told the Charlotte Sun.

    Knowlton was rushed to an area hospital where she was pronounced dead.
    So, they use real guns? ... Sometimes I think this is the Twilight Zone.

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    That's terrible.

    What's there to discuss?

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    And why the fuck didn't the shooter clear the chamber before entering this exercise? For gods sake that basic gun handling.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaganfindel View Post
    That's terrible.

    What's there to discuss?
    Obviously all police departments in the US must be banned now...

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    wtf I hate cops now

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    Quote Originally Posted by Adam Jensen View Post
    And why the fuck didn't the shooter clear the chamber before entering this exercise? For gods sake that basic gun handling.
    Seems like its more than that since she was shot multiple times.

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    Welp, that's weak.
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    How the fuck do you mix up blanks (assuming they would use those) and live ammo? And shot multiple times too? Hope whoever is responsible for this gross incompetence is struck down hard.

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    Quote Originally Posted by I Push Buttons View Post
    Seems like its more than that since she was shot multiple times.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dugraka View Post
    How the fuck do you mix up blanks (assuming they would use those) and live ammo? And shot multiple times too? Hope whoever is responsible for this gross incompetence is struck down hard.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Adam Jensen View Post
    And why the fuck didn't the shooter clear the chamber before entering this exercise? For gods sake that basic gun handling.
    They did, they reloaded with live rounds thinking they were blanks. She was shot multiple times, not just once from what's in the chamber.

    The real question is, why don't they have guns adapted to use blanks. Even a normal pistol with blanks is dangerous at close ranges, it can do serious damage to eyes and such.

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    Aren't blanks specifically coloured to make them easily identifiable?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lenros View Post
    Aren't blanks specifically coloured to make them easily identifiable?
    Yep. This means as they were loading the clips they had live and blanks on the same table... cause that makes all sorts of sense. Combined with probably yapping away and not paying attention to what they're grabbing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by zenkai View Post
    I ask the same thing every time I watch The Crow.
    Jason Lee died from the wadding in a blank, not from mistaking a blank for a real bullet. On subject.... Florida.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dugraka View Post
    Yep. This means as they were loading the clips they had live and blanks on the same table... cause that makes all sorts of sense. Combined with probably yapping away and not paying attention to what they're grabbing.
    That certainly doesn't help the event being less embarrassing and tragic.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kujako View Post
    Jason Lee died from the wadding in a blank, not from mistaking a blank for a real bullet. On subject.... Florida.
    Brandon Lee, and not quite. There was a bullet in the chamber when the blank went off launching the bullet in the chamber.
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    Sounds like a horrible accident.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vegas82 View Post
    Yes, real guns with either blanks or paint rounds.

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    Not the chamber, the barrel. They were using improperly crafted dummy cartridges that had live primer left in some of them. That, in turn, caused the bullet in the dummy cartridge to wedge in the barrel at some point. Nobody noticed the bullet in the barrel before they switched to the bang bang blanks and we lost another Lee too soon.

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    Not really an accident. It's negligence on someone's part.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bovinity Divinity View Post
    Yeah, I don't really get why you'd use a "real" gun for something like this in the first place.
    You don't. They make props specifically for this kind of stuff.

    Yet more evidence that American police are completely and totally incompetent.

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    Dumb dumb dumb.

    If you know anything about weapons you know that blanks are CLEARLY different than live rounds.

    The officer and all the other officers there need to be charged.

    And frankly you don't even need to use blanks for this kind of training.

    I've done plenty of this style training and the lesson can be taught without ammo.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Masark View Post
    You don't. They make props specifically for this kind of stuff.

    Yet more evidence that American police are completely and totally incompetent.
    Yay generalizations!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gamdwelf View Post
    Man I don't know gun terms I'm not a murderer.
    Knowing gun terms makes you a murderer?

    Interesting.
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