96% of the Clintons’ 2015 Charitable Donations Were to Clinton Foundation

[Cyberowl]

Yeah the mental gymnastics are stunning.

Probably had nothing to do with a mental process, rather muscle memory from shitposting on his main account.

[Edge-]

Educate yourself on FOIA. Clinton's tax returns regarding her time in office are not protected against it. Trump's tax returns are protected against FOIA.

Clinton also still withholds partial emails from FOIA. Aka her "missing emails".

Except we're not talking about FOIA requests, we're talking about the fact that it's been standard that candidates voluntarily release their tax returns without a FOIA request needing to be filed.

[zEmini]

It is, actually. There are no laws preventing and it's something that plenty of other wealth individuals with charities do.



The same agency that does all audits, the IRS.

It might be legal, but it doesn't make it ethical or moral.

Do you trust the IRS (who was in the news a year ago their own issues) on doing a non bias audit against the potential future president? That will go over real well for them

[Krimzin]

No one should be surprised corruption runs deep in that family.

http://www.mediaite.com/election-201...on-foundation/

Explains why you are a Trump supporter.

Old saying.. Charity begins at home. You donate the things you hold dear.. for the Clintons, it is their foundation.

For me its ASPCA and Legacy Boxer Rescue.. they get 100% of my donations.. does that mean Im immoral or Unethical... zEmini(above post)

[waitwutt]

https://www.charitywatch.org/ratings...foundation/478

says your are making shit up.

where? the part where in 2014 it says the ceo was paid 500k?

[ImpTaimer]

Except we're not talking about FOIA requests, we're talking about the fact that it's been standard that candidates voluntarily release their tax returns without a FOIA request needing to be filed.

This thread is nothing but mental gymnastics.

Private tax returns are voluntary. Always. Public (ie, "in office") are obligated if requested regardless. Private tax information may be omitted, but anything regarding public finances is up for grabs.

Politicians pretending to voluntarily release their tax records is a red herring.

[Edge-]

It might be legal, but it doesn't make it ethical or moral.

Because?... It's a charitable foundation, like any other, and one with a high rating in terms of its performance. What is morally or ethically questionable about donating to your own charity as long as it does good work?

Do you trust the IRS (who was in the news a year ago their own issues) on doing a non bias audit against the potential future president? That will go over real well for them

So you're creating a scenario where no matter what, the Clinton's are at fault? Because that's not how reality works, you don't start with a conclusion and then twist everything else to fit that conclusion.

Private tax returns are voluntary. Always. Public (ie, "in office") are obligated if requested regardless. Private tax information may be omitted, but anything regarding public finances is up for grabs.

Again, that's irrelevant. No FOIA request was filed for Clintons, that I know of, nor any other candidate in recent decades. All voluntarily released their tax returns. Trump is the first to break from this tradition since Nixon ran.

Politicians pretending to voluntarily release their tax records is a red herring.

Except that they are voluntarily releasing their tax records without being compelled to by a FOIA request.

It's kinda ironic that you complain about mental gymnastics in this thread while you are competing for the gold in that category : )

[Moralgy]

She still pays:

The information is currently available on the Clinton campaign website, which states that Clinton held a 34% federal tax rate, as well as a state and local income tax rate of 9 percent. The combined Clinton tax rate comes out to approximately 43%, with 10% of the gross income having gone to charity.

http://www.mediaite.com/online/hilla...l-do-the-same/

so what is the issue here? Oh yea, this is some controversy dealing with the "Clinton Cash" book, carry on then.

[BrerBear]

Educate yourself on FOIA. Clinton's tax returns regarding her time in office are not protected against it. Trump's tax returns are protected against FOIA.

You are embarrassing yourself.
This tax return issue has nothing to do with FOIA. Candidates releasing tax returns is a tradition after scandals from 40+ years ago.
FOIA doesn't give you access to other people's taxes, even politicians, as it fails the privacy exemption.

[Pangean]

Educate yourself on FOIA. Clinton's tax returns regarding her time in office are not protected against it. Trump's tax returns are protected against FOIA.

Clinton also still withholds partial emails from FOIA. Aka her "missing emails".



Not an argument.

It's not an excuse. It's reality. If you don't like it stay in your safe place.

I'm not contradicting the supposed morality of the situation. History suggests politicians are obligated to release tax returns regarding their time in office. Trump is not a politician. Even if he becomes president he's still not obligated to do release his previous tax returns, however he may be obligated to release his tax returns during his time as president.

That's reality.

Uh no you cannot use FOIA to get her taxes or any politicians during the time they serve. It's covered by exemption 3 under the act.

Safe place? Grow up. I am pointing out that your claim is spurious. No politician is obligated as there is no law requiring it. It's a trust exercise that we expect politicians to engage in to demonstrate their veracity. And Trump became a politician the second he signed the papers to run as a candidate.

And no what you claim is not reality.

[BrerBear]

This thread is nothing but mental gymnastics.

Private tax returns are voluntary. Always. Public (ie, "in office") are obligated if requested regardless.

Complete and utter lie. Politicians do not give up their privacy rights. You cannot just request the taxes of any politician.
Where do you make this shit up?!

[Pangean]

where? the part where in 2014 it says the ceo was paid 500k?

Nope the part where you claimed that : "its corruption because only 10% of the charity's money goes to charity". When in reality it was 88%. You are quite simply being a prevaricator.

[Aeluron Lightsong]

Clintons are suspicious but evidence first is needed.

[Pangean]

This thread is nothing but mental gymnastics.

Private tax returns are voluntary. Always. Public (ie, "in office") are obligated if requested regardless. Private tax information may be omitted, but anything regarding public finances is up for grabs.

Politicians pretending to voluntarily release their tax records is a red herring.

Pretending? Every politician since Nixon (who was under audit at the time) has released their taxes. Trump has demanded others to do the same. That is part of the issue, his fundamental hypocrisy.

Politicians are not required to release their taxes. You are simply spewing bullshit when you claim that. Exemption 3 of FOIA means you cannot use FOIA to force a politician to release taxes. If you want to continue claiming this nonsense start supporting it with actual cites of such.

[Fahrenheit]

This thread is nothing but mental gymnastics.

Private tax returns are voluntary. Always. Public (ie, "in office") are obligated if requested regardless. Private tax information may be omitted, but anything regarding public finances is up for grabs.

Politicians pretending to voluntarily release their tax records is a red herring.

She hasn't been a politician for 4 years. Regardless, she released 31 years of her tax returns. That being said the precedence is there for Presidential candidates to release tax returns. Especially so for Trump as he has no previous political experience to hang his hat on which we can judge his competency. He's running on the basis of him being a savvy Billionaire businessman. They only metric we have to rate him is on his tax returns and business dealings. Considering his companies have filed for bankruptcy several times and he's been sued over 3500 times, you can be damn sure I want to see his returns.

[Alydael]

I am just surprised they donated to a Foundation that is under multiple investigations.

But hey Hillary fanboys (and girls), don't worry it was just an honest "mistake." Just like the e-mail "mistake." And all those other "mistakes" that those evil and mean republicans thought were corruption.... Sheesh! What is wrong with those guys? Picking on poor (her own words), honest Hillary! For shame...


http://www.nydailynews.com/news/poli...icle-1.2199606

[Lenonis]

its corruption because only 10% of the charity's money goes to charity

http://www.politifact.com/punditfact...-spends-just-/

Wrong again

[Pangean]

You are embarrassing yourself.
This tax return issue has nothing to do with FOIA. Candidates releasing tax returns is a tradition after scandals from 40+ years ago.
FOIA doesn't give you access to other people's taxes, even politicians, as it fails the privacy exemption.

I wonder how many of the folks understand the practice came about because of Tricky Dick's shenanigans and one of his most famous lines arose because of it?

[BrerBear]

I wonder how many of the folks understand the practice came about because of Tricky Dick's shenanigans and one of his most famous lines arose because of it?

Probably none.
It makes my crusty old heart so sad.

[Wells]

I am just surprised they donated to a Foundation that is under multiple investigations.

But hey Hillary fanboys (and girls), don't worry it was just an honest "mistake." Just like the e-mail "mistake." And all those other "mistakes" that those evil and mean republicans thought were corruption.... Sheesh! What is wrong with those guys? Picking on poor (her own words), honest Hillary! For shame...


http://www.nydailynews.com/news/poli...icle-1.2199606

They're a highly rated organization.