Dev/Blizz/Act silencing Overwatch Players after Summer Games Cont.

[Hobotripin]

This is a bigger deal than people think. In a year or so, new heroes and maps will cost money as well. This is just the start of it and it's the reason why people are dissapointed and/or angry.

They won't but continue to make baseless and hypothetical futures to support your argument, it only undermines it

[Endus]

This is a bigger deal than people think. In a year or so, new heroes and maps will cost money as well. This is just the start of it and it's the reason why people are dissapointed and/or angry.

Given that they've clearly stated this will NOT be the case, it's pretty easy to dismiss the claim. Heck, the entire POINT here is that you CAN'T just buy these skins with an easy cash payment. You've got to get lucky, and you might not.

[micwini]

Given that they've clearly stated this will NOT be the case, it's pretty easy to dismiss the claim. Heck, the entire POINT here is that you CAN'T just buy these skins with an easy cash payment. You've got to get lucky, and you might not.

They also "clearly stated" we'll be able to buy any skins we want with ingame credits. Guess what.

[Endus]

They also "clearly stated" we'll be able to buy any skins we want with ingame credits. Guess what.

Not only did they never say that, the fact that you've never been able to buy the pre-order Widowmaker skin or the Origins Edition skins with in-game credits puts that claim pretty firmly to rest.

[Temp name]

Not only did they never say that, the fact that you've never been able to buy the pre-order Widowmaker skin or the Origins Edition skins with in-game credits puts that claim pretty firmly to rest.

But the difference is that you can't get them in boxes, you can get the summer skins in boxes.
At this point we're arguing over whose interpretation is right and wrong, and you're losing, based on the fact that Blizzard agreed with pretty much everyone in the thread and changed it.

[micwini]

Not only did they never say that, the fact that you've never been able to buy the pre-order Widowmaker skin or the Origins Edition skins with in-game credits puts that claim pretty firmly to rest.

Someone linked a picture earlier in this thread which supports my argument. He even said they changed that statement after summer games got released.

[Hobotripin]

But the difference is that you can't get them in boxes, you can get the summer skins in boxes.
At this point we're arguing over whose interpretation is right and wrong, and you're losing, based on the fact that Blizzard agreed with pretty much everyone in the thread and changed it.

player icons are in loot boxes and you can't use credits on them, and there was no outrage so please keep using that awful excuse

[Koji2k11]

Someone linked a picture earlier in this thread which supports my argument. He even said they changed that statement after summer games got released.

there is no point in convincing this guy he wont stop white knighting blizzard no matter what, he is blind and refuses to think about whats going on :/

[Temp name]

player icons are in loot boxes and you can't use credits on them, and there was no outrage so please keep using that awful excuse

Because no one cares about them. They serve no purpose. The only ones who see them are your friends, and even then, only if they look at the top right of their screen while on the main menu.

The other things everyone will see, including yourself.

[Hobotripin]

Because no one cares about them. They serve no purpose. The only ones who see them are your friends, and even then, only if they look at the top right of their screen while on the main menu.

The other things everyone will see, including yourself.

lol it doesn't matter it stills counts, don't try and remove a valid item from this argument so you can be right, it's sad you have to try and weasel out of this because you know you're wrong

[Temp name]

lol it doesn't matter it stills counts, don't try and remove a valid item from this argument so you can be right, it's sad you have to try and weasel out of this because you know you're wrong

Oh yeah, because they're so important, and the game would be totally different without them.
The game wouldn't change a single bit without player icons, except there'd be a lot less junk in the boxes (So technically it'd get better?). The game would change an awful lot if you removed any of the other things.

[Endus]

But the difference is that you can't get them in boxes, you can get the summer skins in boxes.
At this point we're arguing over whose interpretation is right and wrong, and you're losing, based on the fact that Blizzard agreed with pretty much everyone in the thread and changed it.

This whole "but they're in boxes" stuff is completely off-base; it's something you folks have completely invented, and it isn't even accurate. As noted, player icons aren't available for currency.

Your own arguments aren't consistent;

1> They're in loot boxes, so they should be available for currency, unlike player icons, which have always been in loot boxes and are not.
2> They're skins that people want, so they should be available for currency, unlike Origins Edition and pre-order skins, which are not.

These aren't arguments. They're you folks making up rules and complaining that Blizzard isn't following your made-up rules.

Someone linked a picture earlier in this thread which supports my argument. He even said they changed that statement after summer games got released.

It doesn't say what you apparently think it does. As we've gone over, multiple times in this thread.

Because no one cares about them. They serve no purpose. The only ones who see them are your friends, and even then, only if they look at the top right of their screen while on the main menu.

The other things everyone will see, including yourself.

Err, no, you can see everyone's icons when the match starts in Competitive; http://8gmwp015fo-flywheel.netdna-ss...oad-screen.png

And regardless, it doesn't matter. They're in loot boxes, they're cosmetic items, they're not available for currency.

You keep making up new exceptions to the rules you're trying to hold Blizzard to, and if you have to keep making up new exceptions to explain how things actually work, maybe it's time to accept that your base rule is just not right. There is no requirement or expectation that Blizzard must make all skins available for in-game currency.

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Oh yeah, because they're so important, and the game would be totally different without them.
The game wouldn't change a single bit without player icons, except there'd be a lot less junk in the boxes (So technically it'd get better?). The game would change an awful lot if you removed any of the other things.

The game also wouldn't change at all without skins.

Because, again, they're cosmetic.

[Hobotripin]

Oh yeah, because they're so important, and the game would be totally different without them.
The game wouldn't change a single bit without player icons, except there'd be a lot less junk in the boxes (So technically it'd get better?). The game would change an awful lot if you removed any of the other things.

Using your logic the same can be said about anything in the loot boxes

[Temp name]

Using your logic the same can be said about anything in the loot boxes

Except that a lot of those skins are better than the original ones. Which means happier players.

This whole "but they're in boxes" stuff is completely off-base; it's something you folks have completely invented, and it isn't even accurate. As noted, player icons aren't available for currency.

Your own arguments aren't consistent;

1> They're in loot boxes, so they should be available for currency, unlike player icons, which have always been in loot boxes and are not.
2> They're skins that people want, so they should be available for currency, unlike Origins Edition and pre-order skins, which are not.

These aren't arguments. They're you folks making up rules and complaining that Blizzard isn't following your made-up rules.



It doesn't say what you apparently think it does. As we've gone over, multiple times in this thread.



Err, no, you can see everyone's icons when the match starts in Competitive; http://8gmwp015fo-flywheel.netdna-ss...oad-screen.png

And regardless, it doesn't matter. They're in loot boxes, they're cosmetic items, they're not available for currency.

You keep making up new exceptions to the rules you're trying to hold Blizzard to, and if you have to keep making up new exceptions to explain how things actually work, maybe it's time to accept that your base rule is just not right. There is no requirement or expectation that Blizzard must make all skins available for in-game currency.

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The game also wouldn't change at all without skins.

Because, again, they're cosmetic.

But please do enlighten me about how you're so correct that Blizzard didn't change what they said. Oh wait, they did.

[Hobotripin]

Except that a lot of those skins are better than the original ones. Which means happier players.


But please do enlighten me about how you're so correct that Blizzard didn't change what they said. Oh wait, they did.

I'm happier when I have a player icon I like, try again you keep digging yourself in a deeper hole

[Temp name]

I'm happier when I have a player icon I like, try again you keep digging yourself in a deeper hole

Why though? You don't see it for 95% of the time you play. No one else will see your player icon.
Elaborate on why it makes you happier

[Endus]

But please do enlighten me about how you're so correct that Blizzard didn't change what they said. Oh wait, they did.

They changed the wording to be more clear. That's it.

Fact is; there have always been skins that have been not been made available for currency. There have always been cosmetic rewards in loot boxes not available for currency.

There was no change in policy. Just a clarification because of folks like you who were willfully trying to misinterpret their prior wording to claim they had "lied", when the simple reality is that you just misunderstood.

[Temp name]

They changed the wording to be more clear. That's it.

Fact is; there have always been skins that have been not been made available for currency. There have always been cosmetic rewards in loot boxes not available for currency.

There was no change in policy. Just a clarification because of folks like you who were willfully trying to misinterpret their prior wording to claim they had "lied", when the simple reality is that you just misunderstood.

There have never before been cosmetic items that you want in boxes though. Icons are there as filler so you get less of the stuff you actually want

[Endus]

There have never before been cosmetic items that you want in boxes though. Icons are there as filler so you get less of the stuff you actually want

And now you're back to literally making stuff up and pretending it describes Blizzard's policies.

And some of us DO want player icons, thankyouverymuch. And voice lines, for that matter. I don't see any of that as "filler", and it's a bit silly to argue as such, because they could've just said there were three items per loot box and not included icons, and saved themselves the dev time, if it was "just filler".

[Temp name]

And now you're back to literally making stuff up and pretending it describes Blizzard's policies.

And some of us DO want player icons, thankyouverymuch.

Why though? They have literally no impact on the game for 99% of the time you're logged in. WHY do you want them?