US military members/veterans

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And how many times have you done tours in the middle east?

You know they have educational programs in the army which help with reading comprehension.

[Deleted]

You know they have educational programs in the army which help with reading comprehension.

You may benefit from enlisting then.

[dwightyo39]

You may benefit from enlisting then.

I'm sure he read all about it. Pretty much the same thing, right?

[Deleted]

I'm sure he read all about it. Pretty much the same thing, right?

In order to oppose something you have to go and do it to find out why you oppose it. That's some fucked up logic there.

ISIS think they are great guys. Don't agree? Your opinion doesn't count, you were never in ISIS.

[Saucexorzski]

In order to oppose something you have to go and do it to find out why you oppose it. That's some fucked up logic there.

ISIS think they are great guys. Don't agree? Your opinion doesn't count, you were never in ISIS.

so who stops ISIS from doing bad things if you don't want any western nations to have soldiers? Guess the allied nations were wrong to oppose Nazi Germany because they were just Nazis wearing a different uniform right? Why stop with the military personnel? Cops kill innocent lives too, lets stop having those...

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so who stops ISIS from doing bad things if you don't want any western nations to have soldiers?

ISIS wouldn't exist but for the illegal invasion of Iraq by the US and other western military forces, and the resulting political vacuum. Western intervention was the best thing that ever happened to radical Jihadism.

You want to throw more petrol on that bonfire?

[Deleted]

ISIS wouldn't exist but for the illegal invasion of Iraq by the US and other western military forces, and the resulting political vacuum. Western intervention was the best thing that ever happened to radical Jihadism.

You want to throw more petrol on that bonfire?

Isis would have happened any way, the moment Saddam's (natural) death would have occured. God knows how strong they would have been without the US led coalition dismantling Saddam's forces (many Isis guys were Saddam's soldiers).

Iraq was a vulcano waiting to erupt.

[TwoNineMarine]

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Bahahaha. Oh yes. Fucking Rutbah. Lol.

Rah. Navy Corpsman here at the best duty station Okinawa, Japan. Kappa.

Ah Camp Hansen. Is Kin still a thing? I heard our guys can't go out there anymore.

5 years and counting US Navy Hospital Corpsman. I dont kill or (purposefully) harm people. I save lives, while abusing the system for ez money, free education, free housing off bases while going overseas. Rich life choices.

Ever go greenside?

US Army 6 years. Infantry. Stationed at Ft. Lewis. Couple deployments. Afghanistan most recent, 2013.

Random question for ya.

Do you know how tough it is for prior military to get on base there to check out that museum on the west side of I-5? The one with the various tanks/arty outside of it. Big white building.

[Zeta333]

ISIS wouldn't exist but for the illegal invasion of Iraq by the US and other western military forces, and the resulting political vacuum. Western intervention was the best thing that ever happened to radical Jihadism.

You want to throw more petrol on that bonfire?

You have the ability to delve into alternate universes? Man the army sure could use people like you, Fucking wizard you are.

[Saucexorzski]

ISIS wouldn't exist but for the illegal invasion of Iraq by the US and other western military forces, and the resulting political vacuum. Western intervention was the best thing that ever happened to radical Jihadism.

You want to throw more petrol on that bonfire?

So we should not confront ISIS right? Just let them go on doing what they are doing and if they move to grab even more territory we should just let them have it right?

[Zeta333]

Do you know how tough it is for prior military to get on base there to check out that museum on the west side of I-5? The one with the various tanks/arty outside of it. Big white building.

Go to the visitors center, they might let you in.

[Saucexorzski]

You have the ability to delve into alternate universes? Man the army sure could use people like you, Fucking wizard you are.

He is a person who is criticizing the very military he would be begging to save his ass if he was in a war zone...its kinda delicious.

[Phlegethon]

why would you want to publicly admit you were involved, even indirectly, with Guantanamo?

Mainly this.
But probably proud? Torture and incarceration without trial remain the cornerstone of a developed society.
Wait no, I'm mistaken, that's those they defend their "freedom" against, probably...

[TwoNineMarine]

Go to the visitors center, they might let you in.

Yeah I figured it was worth a try. Just didn't know if they've implemented any weird hoops to jump through since I got out of the Corps back in '09.

[Deleted]

You have the ability to delve into alternate universes? Man the army sure could use people like you, Fucking wizard you are.

There were no jihadis in Iraq under Saddam Hussein, who controlled a secular socialist dictatorship. He warned repeatedly that they would move in if he was removed. They did. It is not difficult to understand.

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He is a person who is criticizing the very military he would be begging to save his ass if he was in a war zone...its kinda delicious.

If you'd actually lived in a war zone you'd know the last people you go to help for are the military. Even the ones that are supposed to be on "your" side. They don't care about anything other than killing people and other soldiers, everyone else is an outsider.

[Saucexorzski]

There were no jihadis in Iraq under Saddam Hussein, who controlled a secular socialist dictatorship. He warned repeatedly that they would move in if he was removed. They did. It is not difficult to understand.

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If you'd actually lived in a war zone you'd know the last people you go to help for are the military. Even the ones on "your" side. They don't care about anything other than killing people.

Tell us more about what its like to live in a war zone.

[Deleted]

Tell us more about what its like to live in a war zone.

Living in a war zone is very unpleasant, unless perhaps you are in a military base with many of the comforts of western life, have armed guards everywhere, and don't really have to interact with the natives except on a very superficial level. Which I suspect is what you got when you were deployed in the navy before you got thrown out for being nuts and are now going to brag about.

[TwoNineMarine]

There were no jihadis in Iraq under Saddam Hussein, who controlled a secular socialist dictatorship. He warned repeatedly that they would move in if he was removed. They did. It is not difficult to understand.

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If you'd actually lived in a war zone you'd know the last people you go to help for are the military. Even the ones that are supposed to be on "your" side. They don't care about anything other than killing people and other soldiers, everyone else is an outsider.

You obviously have never been in a warzone with US troops.

The vast majority of time all we did was spend time with the kids, playing with them, giving out food and candy, helping them build up infrastructure, etc.

Outside of preparing for missions and then doing patrols very little of your time is spent "killing people".

[Saucexorzski]

Living in a war zone is very unpleasant, unless perhaps you are in a military base with many of the comforts of western life, have armed guards everywhere, and don't really have to interact with the natives except on a very superficial level. Which I suspect is what you got when you were deployed in the navy before you got thrown out for being nuts and are now going to brag about.

Nope i never made it over seas, i was still in RO school when i was diagnosed with personality disorder. I dont consider myself a vet even tho i qualify. Joining the military wasn't about bragging rights to me, it was about repaying my country for what it has done for me. I failed and i have to live with that.

But back on to your tangent of Military men are evil, whats your end game? you want them all gone? you want it reformed? or are you just here to insult them for engaging i a human activity that has spanned our species existence because we DO NOT all just get along.

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You obviously have never been in a warzone with US troops.

The vast majority of time all we did was spend time with the kids, playing with them, giving out food and candy, helping them build up infrastructure, etc.

Outside of preparing for missions and then doing patrols very little of your time is spent "killing people".

The people who talk to you will be sympathetic to the occupation. That is sample bias in action.