Dalaran is not Alliance city

[Luckx]

Dalaran is neutral city,Kirin Tor proclaimed themselves neutral in the conflict between the Horde and the Alliance

Lorewise originally Dalaran belonged to "Alliance of Lordaeron" but most of those people are Forsaken now.
(Gameplaywise pre WOTLK it was just a giant purple dome. You could never get into it and you couldn't see inside it.)

In theory Jaina ruled Dalaran during MOP but for real she is not in charge.
And Sunreavers represent only part of Horde and not whole Horde.

Khadgar led an expedition to the alternate Draenor, establishing his mage tower in Zangarra. Jaina ordered Khadgar to not allow the Horde to step foot on Kirin Tor grounds. Despite this warning, Khadgar worked with both the Alliance and the Horde to accomplish his goals on Draenor.

Another factor to consider is that many Forsaken and blood elves were formerly citizens and even rulers of Dalaran.

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[Braxximyr]

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[munkeyinorbit]

Disagree. It doesn't really matter if you identify yourself with alliance or not. If you are human, like all the real mages are, then you are part of the alliance. Dalaran is a human construct, Dalaran meddles in human kingdom affairs, Dalaran is alliance.

[Luckx]

Posting this cas some ppl made offtopic posts in thread on Blizz forums about Dalaran aesthetics like

It's an Alliance city with room being made because of an emergency.

They could've put you in the sewers.

You're lucky we let you back in at all.

Wasn't Dalaran supposed to be neutral? Or did MoP change that?

It wasn't 'the Alliances' decision.. it was the Kirin Tor's. Arguably the Kirin Tor never went Alliance either... Jaina just happened to be in charge and forced their hand.

Dalaran is basically neutral

Dalaran is an Alliance city that the Horde were invited to in order to defeate the Lich King and Legion. They were provided a space to settle.

But since that thread is not about factions but about looks/aesthetics, posting this in another one

[Aydinx2]

Posting this cas some ppl made offtopic posts in thread on Blizz forums about Dalaran aesthetics like

But since that thread is not about factions but about looks/aesthetics, posting this in another one

Why? What's the point of this thread?

[Omians]

Well it was an alliance city after the divine bell issue. And she was in charge. Even had the Leader of Kirin Tor title. But she got out voted about letting horde back into dalaran due to them needing horde aid during the legion invasion and pulled a cartman " screw you guys im going home"

[Luckx]

Disagree. It doesn't really matter if you identify yourself with alliance or not. If you are human, like all the real mages are, then you are part of the alliance. Dalaran is a human construct, Dalaran meddles in human kingdom affairs, Dalaran is alliance.

Disagree since most humans who builded Dalaran is probably Forsaken now,alot humans become Forsaken, and most of Lordaeron Alliance is forsaken now.

Kirin Tor is not just humans but also Highborne Night Elves, Blood Elves and High Elves. Most of High Elves became Blood Elves after they lost 90% of their population.

Some human factions are hostile to Alliance like Defias Brotherhood, not sure about Scarlet Crusade.

Some humans was Scourge necromancers and death knights on Lich King side.

[Aydinx2]

Disagree since most humans who builded Dalaran is probably Forsaken now,alot humans become Forsaken, and most of Lordaeron Alliance is forsaken now.

Kirin Tor is not just humans but also Highborne Night Elves, Blood Elves and High Elves. Most of High Elves became Blood Elves after they lost 90% of their population.

Some human factions are hostile to Alliance like Defias Brotherhood, not sure about Scarlet Crusade.

Some humans was Scourge necromancers and death knights on Lich King side.

Just because the people who used to own a city got switched to a different faction through being killed doesn't mean that the city does aswell.
The city is Alliance. It was built in Alliance territory but members of the Alliance, and even before Jaina the Horde members were only allowed in as ambassadors and mages.

[Malkaedus]

The Kirin Tor and Dalaran joined the Alliance midway through Mists of Pandaria. This is a fact.

They just became neutral again. This is one of several reasons Jaina Proudmore is so angry.

[Zonned]

Dalaran was originally founded though an alliance with Arathorian empire (humans no longer exists) and the high elves (now blood elves). The city only became pro-alliance when crazy Jaina took it over and started attacking people who had been there far longer than herself. Jaina is insane and should be permanently barred from Dalaran. The alliances claims to Dalaran are no better than the claims of the blood elves.

[Polybius]

Last I checked, Sylvanas and the Forsaken attacked Dalaran (around Vanilla). She was responsible for Arugal replenishing the Kirin Tor's lost power with worgen (after leaving the Kirin Tor). And yet, again, she attacked Gilneas after. Remember the Book of Ur?

Not to mention, what happened with several members of the Kirin Tor (and Azure dragonflight, allies with the council) thanks to Garrosh's bloodthirst. Jaina and Greymane have every right to be pissed off.

Dalaran is hardly neutral. It has a decent history of conflict from the Horde.

[Zonned]

Last I checked, Sylvanas and the Forsaken attacked Dalaran (around Vanilla). She was responsible for Arugal replenishing the Kirin Tor's lost power with worgen (after leaving the Kirin Tor). And yet, again, she attacked Gilneas after.

Not to mention, what happened with several members of the Kirin Tor (and Azure dragonflight, allies with the council) thanks to Garrosh's bloodthirst. Jaina and Greymane have every right to be pissed off.

Dalaran is hardly neutral. It has a decent history of conflict from the Horde.

They were not forsaken at the time just servants of the lich king she was bound by his will at the time.

[Onomatopoeia]

It was Alliance Pre Wotlk, then in MoP. But it no longer is.

[jellmoo]

It was. Then it wasn't. Then its was again. Now it isn't.

[Mercarcher]

Just because the people who used to own a city got switched to a different faction through being killed doesn't mean that the city does aswell.
The city is Alliance. It was built in Alliance territory but members of the Alliance, and even before Jaina the Horde members were only allowed in as ambassadors and mages.

Uh... Lorderon/Undercity says hello.

Also the high elves co-founded Dalaran with the humans and are now the blood elves allied with the horde.

[Eapoe]

Wasn't Dalaran always neutral? It is a city for the practitioners of magic and had little to nothing to do with the alli other than advisors, and not actually aligned to the humans or any other race. Then the horde arrived, Dalaran remained open to all practitioners (including the horde) and became completely neutral in the conflict. They served as ambassadors and advisors, as well as a neutral place to discuss things. Garrosh destroyed Jaina's home, to which she went ballistic and expelled the horde from the city, making it an alliance based city only, while the Kirin Tor still remained neutral. Still, acting as leader of the Tor, people would be hard pressed to oppose her after what Garrosh did and tell her she is unjustified without causing a rift in the Tor and destroying their neutrality.
Now (indeterminate amount of time) the entire world is under threat and being backed by Khadgar, the council over ruled Jaina and allow the horde back into the neutral city. Even if it meant overruling Jaina, the Tor realized it's necessary to allow them back as the aide from both sides will be needed.

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Uh... Lorderon/Undercity says hello.

Also the high elves co-founded Dalaran with the humans and are now the blood elves allied with the horde.

...A fair amount of High Elves are part of the Alliance. Although I admit some are in the horde. Just in case you don't believe me.
http://wowwiki.wikia.com/wiki/High_elf

Under 'Affiliation'.

It was. Then it wasn't. Then its was again. Now it isn't.

This is pretty much dalaran. So I'm not sure why you made a thread pretty much stating what was known. Originally it was created but the High evles and the Humans allied with them. So it started out as alliance, what it is now is neutral but doesn't change it from being made by people of the Alliance. EDIT: To Clarify, I do not mean it is an CITY OF THE ALLIANCE, i meant it was created by members of them -but was neutral.

Posting this cas some ppl made offtopic posts in thread on Blizz forums about Dalaran aesthetics like

It's an Alliance city with room being made because of an emergency.

They could've put you in the sewers.
You're lucky we let you back in at all.
Wasn't Dalaran supposed to be neutral? Or did MoP change that?
It wasn't 'the Alliances' decision.. it was the Kirin Tor's. Arguably the Kirin Tor never went Alliance either... Jaina just happened to be in charge and forced their hand.

Dalaran is basically neutral
Dalaran is an Alliance city that the Horde were invited to in order to defeate the Lich King and Legion. They were provided a space to settle.

But since that thread is not about factions but about looks/aesthetics, posting this in another one

Oh! So what happened was:
-Someone made a topic on the official WoW forums about looks of places.
-You didn't like some comments that you saw.
-So you came to MMO-C,not the WoW Forums.
-Made a separate thread on a separate forum site to some how show them the truth by stating Dalaran is neutral.
-Out of the blue mind you.
-Expected attention?

I really don't know what to say, I think I've said enough.