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    Quote Originally Posted by Espe View Post
    He definitely knows how to pander to the lowest common denominator of our society, which is why he easily won the Republican primary - that's their bread and butter voter thanks to the Southern Strategy. As for the child porn ring I wouldn't be surprised considering the number of times he has talked about fucking his own daughter. No wonder the conservatives love him.
    Yea yea yea yea libs love this myth.

    The South is where you find Americas diversity, both in largest populations and greatest densities.

    If the South is truly all a bunch of racists then you'd have to admit that its because of decades of multiculturalism.

    If that's not the case then you'd have to admit this southern strategy is just a BS excuse for why most Democrat cities clock in only a few percentage points of racial diversity.

    And as for that pedo ring?

    You do know the only solid court admissible proof that Trump was involved with Epstein was a few phone numbers in an address book that contain thousands of numbers and testimony from Epstein's brother that Trump flew on the plane once - although not to pedo island.

    Bill Clinton on the other hand has documented proof showing his travels to the pedo island 26 times with 7 of those trips being solo as he ordered his secret service detail to remain behind.

    Now as anybody here knows I believe strongly the only cure for a pedophilia is bullets.

    But I'm amazed at how a lot of people can call for Trump blood over this without also demanding Bill Clinton's head as well.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zombergy View Post
    The South is where you find Americas diversity, both in largest populations and greatest densities.
    I bet my ESL JH class in Brooklyn, was more diverse than most cities down south or through the middle of the country.

    If the South is truly all a bunch of racists then you'd have to admit that its because of decades of multiculturalism.
    This sentence has no meaning. If all apples taste sweet, you have to admit you kicked a cat?

    If that's not the case then you'd have to admit this southern strategy is just a BS excuse for why most Democrat cities clock in only a few percentage points of racial diversity.
    Also, what? What does "Democrat cities clock in only a few percentage points of racial diversity" supposed to mean?

    And as for that pedo ring?

    You do know the only solid court admissible proof that Trump was involved with Epstein was a few phone numbers in an address book that contain thousands of numbers and testimony from Epstein's brother that Trump flew on the plane once - although not to pedo island.
    Are you saying that this quote from Trump, is not admissible in court?

    He’s a lot of fun to be with. It is even said that he likes beautiful women as much as I do, and many of them are on the younger side. No doubt about it — Jeffrey enjoys his social life.
    http://nymag.com/nymetro/news/people/n_7912/#

    But I'm amazed at how a lot of people can call for Trump blood over this without also demanding Bill Clinton's head as well.
    The amazing part in all this, is actually the fact that Clintons were the only ones targeted by this controversy. Until Trump chose to admonish Clintons for it, which in turn brought the spotlight to him. Remember Bill Clinton is not running for president...

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    Quote Originally Posted by stabetha View Post
    if that was the case why Arizona? Trump will carry Arizona by a large margin.

    In fact both states are far from swing states and them going to the other candidate would be a giant red flag. I highly doubt either side was behind this.
    Only one candidate asked them to do it...
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    Quote Originally Posted by cubby View Post
    Can't even you put the obvious ties together? Russia hacked state election centers. Trump has several ties to Russia.
    But Hillary has ties to Trump, ermagawd she's working for teh Pootin!

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    Quote Originally Posted by caervek View Post
    But Hillary has ties to Trump, ermagawd she's working for teh Pootin!
    And Bernie Sanders got ties to Killary "im a woman" Killton. Oh i see the pattern already

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    Quote Originally Posted by stabetha View Post
    if that was the case why Arizona?
    I don't know. How could I?


    Trump will carry Arizona by a large margin.
    That remains to be seen: http://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/...ecast/arizona/


    In fact both states are far from swing states and them going to the other candidate would be a giant red flag. I highly doubt either side was behind this.
    Possibly, again, I'm just going with the facts we have and drawing conclusions.

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    Quote Originally Posted by caervek View Post
    But Hillary has ties to Trump, ermagawd she's working for teh Pootin!
    You know, that is one of the oddest things. Trump and Hillary's daughters are best friends.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Orbitus View Post
    There are CLEARER ties for Trump with the Saudi Royal Family than Hillary with them. Trump was literally bailed out by a Saudi prince, TWICE. Hillary had some donations to the Clinton Foundation, something she can't even touch.

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    Considering Trump and Russian ties, it would be Trump more than Hillary.

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    He's a Russian apologist from what I understand.
    Since even Democrats and unaffiliateds have admitted the Clinton Foundation is a slush fund for the Clinton family and friends, it's amusing that you think she can't touch that cash.

    http://www.powerlineblog.com/archive...e-clintons.php
    http://nypost.com/2015/04/26/charity...-a-slush-fund/

    The Clinton Foundation’s finances are so messy that the nation’s most influential charity watchdog put it on its “watch list” of problematic nonprofits last month.

    The Clinton family’s mega-charity took in more than $140 million in grants and pledges in 2013 but spent just $9 million on direct aid.

    The group spent the bulk of its windfall on administration, travel, and salaries and bonuses, with the fattest payouts going to family friends.

    On its 2013 tax forms, the most recent available, the foundation claimed it spent $30 million on payroll and employee benefits; $8.7 million in rent and office expenses; $9.2 million on “conferences, conventions and meetings”; $8 million on fundraising; and nearly $8.5 million on travel. None of the Clintons is on the payroll, but they do enjoy first-class flights paid for by the foundation.

    In all, the group reported $84.6 million in “functional expenses” on its 2013 tax return and had more than $64 million left over — money the organization has said represents pledges rather than actual cash on hand.

    Some of the tens of millions in administrative costs finance more than 2,000 employees, including aid workers and health professionals around the world.

    But that’s still far below the 75 percent rate of spending that nonprofit experts say a good charity should spend on its mission.

    Charity Navigator, which rates nonprofits, recently refused to rate the Clinton Foundation because its “atypical business model . . . doesn’t meet our criteria.”

    Charity Navigator put the foundation on its “watch list,” which warns potential donors about investing in problematic charities. The 23 charities on the list include the Rev. Al Sharpton’s troubled National Action Network, which is cited for failing to pay payroll taxes for several years.

    Other nonprofit experts are asking hard questions about the Clinton Foundation’s tax filings in the wake of recent reports that the Clintons traded influence for donations.

    “It seems like the Clinton Foundation operates as a slush fund for the Clintons,” said Bill Allison, a senior fellow at the Sunlight Foundation, a government watchdog group where progressive Democrat and Fordham Law professor Zephyr Teachout was once an organizing director.

    In July 2013, Eric Braverman, a friend of Chelsea Clinton from when they both worked at McKinsey & Co., took over as CEO of the Clinton Foundation. He took home nearly $275,000 in salary, benefits and a housing allowance from the nonprofit for just five months’ work in 2013, tax filings show. Less than a year later, his salary increased to $395,000, according to a report in Politico.

    Braverman abruptly left the foundation earlier this year, after a falling-out with the old Clinton guard over reforms he wanted to impose at the charity, Politico reported. Last month, Donna Shalala, a former secretary of health and human services under President Clinton, was hired to replace Braverman.

    Nine other executives received salaries over $100,000 in 2013, tax filings show.

    The nonprofit came under fire last week following reports that Hillary Clinton, while she was secretary of state, signed off on a deal that allowed a Russian government enterprise to control one-fifth of all uranium producing capacity in the United States. Rosatom, the Russian company, acquired a Canadian firm controlled by Frank Giustra, a friend of Bill Clinton’s and member of the foundation board, who has pledged over $130 million to the Clinton family charity.

    The group also failed to disclose millions of dollars it received in foreign donations from 2010 to 2012 and is hurriedly refiling five years’ worth of tax returns after reporters raised questions about the discrepancies in its filings last week.

    An accountant for the Clinton Foundation did not return The Post’s calls seeking clarification on its expenses Friday, and a spokesperson for the group refused comment.
    https://www.charitynavigator.org/ind...&ein=311580204

    Why isn't this organization rated?

    We had previously evaluated this organization, but have since determined that this charity's atypical business model can not be accurately captured in our current rating methodology. Our removal of The Clinton Foundation from our site is neither a condemnation nor an endorsement of this charity. We reserve the right to reinstate a rating for The Clinton Foundation as soon as we identify a rating methodology that appropriately captures its business model.

    What does it mean that this organization isn’t rated?

    It simply means that the organization doesn't meet our criteria. A lack of a rating does not indicate a positive or negative assessment by Charity Navigator.
    I'm sure Trump has ties to Saudis, but his were had as a private citizen and businessman. Hillary's were as Secretary of State at the very minimum, probably as a Senator and First Lady as well as those ties she's maintained once she left the State Dept.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Damajin View Post
    Since even Democrats and unaffiliateds have admitted the Clinton Foundation is a slush fund for the Clinton family and friends, it's amusing that you think she can't touch that cash.

    http://www.powerlineblog.com/archive...e-clintons.php
    http://nypost.com/2015/04/26/charity...-a-slush-fund/



    https://www.charitynavigator.org/ind...&ein=311580204



    I'm sure Trump has ties to Saudis, but his were had as a private citizen and businessman. Hillary's were as Secretary of State at the very minimum, probably as a Senator and First Lady as well as those ties she's maintained once she left the State Dept.
    You linked A BLOG and the New York Post, that is owned by Rupert Murdoch, the guy that owns Fox News, as sources and calls it Democratic sources? The powerline guy works for a conservative "think tank", called the Claremont Institute.

    And yes, Trump was bailed out from bankruptcy TWICE, that is more damning than having money donated to a charity she can't touch. Unless you magically have a source that isn't partisan bullshit. Like say, tax records? Which are publicly available for it. They don't even get a salary from it.

    http://www.newyorker.com/news/john-c...s-donald-trump

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    Quote Originally Posted by Orbitus View Post
    You linked A BLOG and the New York Post, that is owned by Rupert Murdoch, the guy that owns Fox News, as sources and calls it Democratic sources? The powerline guy works for a conservative "think tank", called the Claremont Institute.

    And yes, Trump was bailed out from bankruptcy TWICE, that is more damning than having money donated to a charity she can't touch. Unless you magically have a source that isn't partisan bullshit. Like say, tax records? Which are publicly available for it. They don't even get a salary from it.

    http://www.newyorker.com/news/john-c...s-donald-trump
    You clearly didn't read the article, nor the people it cited.

    They don't have to, since they can get speaking fees from corporations in lieu of salary, oh and all their family and friends who work at the Clinton Foundation can kick cash back to shit like Hillary PACs which she can touch. I guess all that chartered flying the Clintons do that is covered by the Foundation doesn't count as them touching it either.

    Let me help you out:

    “It seems like the Clinton Foundation operates as a slush fund for the Clintons,” said Bill Allison, a senior fellow at the Sunlight Foundation, a government watchdog group once run by leading progressive Democrat and Fordham Law professor Zephyr Teachout. …

    The Clinton family’s mega-charity took in more than $140 million in grants and pledges in 2013 but spent just $9 million on direct aid. …

    On its 2013 tax forms, the most recent available, the foundation claimed it spent $30 million on payroll and employee benefits; $8.7 million in rent and office expenses; $9.2 million on “conferences, conventions and meetings”; $8 million on fundraising; and nearly $8.5 million on travel. None of the Clintons is on the payroll, but they do enjoy first-class flights paid for by the foundation.

    In all, the group reported $84.6 million in “functional expenses” on its 2013 tax return and had more than $64 million left over — money the organization has said represents pledges rather than actual cash on hand.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zombergy View Post
    The South is where you find Americas diversity
    Why was there a mass exodus of millions of African Americans from the south over the last hundred years?

    As for the rest, Trump is the one going around talking about fucking his own daughter, guiding her around by her ass at events. Of course anything is forgivable as long as he says the racist, sexist, and homophobic dog-whistles that resonate so well with the Tea Party / Republican voting base (thanks to the Southern Strategy conservatives desperately rely on), even incest and pedophilia now apparently.

    Quite a candidate for President of the United States
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    Quote Originally Posted by Damajin View Post
    You clearly didn't read the article, nor the people it cited.

    They don't have to, since they can get speaking fees from corporations in lieu of salary, oh and all their family and friends who work at the Clinton Foundation can kick cash back to shit like Hillary PACs which she can touch. I guess all that chartered flying the Clintons do that is covered by the Foundation doesn't count as them touching it either.

    Let me help you out:
    That doesn't help your argument. Nowhere does that state that it is a "slush fund" for the Clintons, that says that they have money left over from donations. Unless you can find a smoking gun about them actually using money for things, then you really don't have an argument. Just speculation and conspiracy theories. Should we call you Peter Schweizer now? Because he didn't have any evidence for his book either.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Orbitus View Post
    That doesn't help your argument. Nowhere does that state that it is a "slush fund" for the Clintons, that says that they have money left over from donations. Unless you can find a smoking gun about them actually using money for things, then you really don't have an argument. Just speculation and conspiracy theories. Should we call you Peter Schweizer now? Because he didn't have any evidence for his book either.
    It seems like the Clinton Foundation operates as a slush fund for the Clintons,” said Bill Allison, a senior fellow at the Sunlight Foundation, a government watchdog group once run by leading progressive Democrat and Fordham Law professor Zephyr Teachout. …
    Reading is hard. The rest of the info shows they spend the bulk of their cash on payroll, travel and administration and donated just 9 million as direct aid. If that's not the definition of a slush fund, nothing is.

    It's not speculation or conspiracy theories, that's the hard facts. They spent almost as much money on travel for the Clinton family alone as they did on direct aid. Take the blinders off.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Damajin View Post
    Reading is hard. The rest of the info shows they spend the bulk of their cash on payroll, travel and administration and donated just 9 million as direct aid. If that's not the definition of a slush fund, nothing is.

    It's not speculation or conspiracy theories, that's the hard facts. They spent almost as much money on travel for the Clinton family alone as they did on direct aid. Take the blinders off.
    Just because he claims it, doesn't make it true. I could claim you have literally killed a million people, but if I have no evidence for it, it is a conspiracy theory. You know, much like the conspiracies that Hillary is having seizures. Got anymore arguments you want to try to make? Or you going to provide evidence that they actually are using it as a slush fund?

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