"No way back, Sweden will never be what it was"

[Kalis]

Again, I'm requesting examples of problems CREATED by these refugee waves. The situations MOST aggravated by the refugees, are that of far right movements growing. And that's on the shoulders of the people allowing themselves to stoop to such levels. It's not cool trying to paint hundreds of thousands of individuals out to be involved in crime because their skin is brown and they're Muslims, when they are just like any other group of people. A percentage are involved in crime, the rest just want to live in peace and provide for themselves and their families.

It's the exact same attitude seen during the buildup to WW2. A group of people of a certain religion are painted out to be responsible for anything wrong in a society, whilst overlooking the fact that they've done NOTHING that wasn't already present in that society.

Were the Jews causing crime out of proportion to their population levels pre-WWII? The refugees are.

The notion that because they haven't invented new crimes, therefore they are alright, is pure bollocks. They should be causing crime at a lower rate than locals, due to them being allowed into the country for their own safety, but that isn't the case is it?

[Deleted]

You... You don't see the differences between those pictures?

Oh right, they're mostly white on both pictures. That's the important part.

I do. That's why I added that second bit.

[Deleted]

Those people are mostly swedes where I live.

Yeah, it's the same here but they don't care about them. They just care about the finns because they stand out due to not having a svensson name.

[Tzalix]

I do. That's why I added that second bit.

Yes, I'm sure inland sweden has never looked like that. It has only ever been gatherings of white people waving the swedish flag.

[Deleted]

There's also the benefit of happiness.

Yes, for limousine socialists like you who get to experience self-righteous glow at the expense of others.

[Deleted]

Swedes don't look white to me though...

I'm right at the top of the white skin master race pyramid. I'm a native pure blood English.

Then I put the Norwegian below me.

Then below them I put the Germans and Danish.

Then the French.

Then the swedes.

And finally the big block of people from Eastern Europe and Russia.

[Deleted]

Were the Jews causing crime out of proportion to their population levels pre-WWII? The refugees are.

The notion that because they haven't invented new crimes, therefore they are alright, is pure bollocks. They should be causing crime at a lower rate than locals, due to them being allowed into the country for their own safety, but that isn't the case is it?

IIRC the only immigrant groups that are close to Swedes in crime rates are the (south)east asians, the british and americans. Other groups have a higher rate(+2% more at least, some reaching +15% more).

[satimy]

There's also the benefit of happiness.

Ok so Im gathering that you cant name a single calculated thing that makes diversity good

[Deleted]

Yes, I'm sure inland sweden has never looked like that. It has only ever been gatherings of white people waving the swedish flag.

The onus is on you.

There is a painting from Latvia, Riga. Done in 1200's that have a brown/black man as one of the merchants in port.
It does not represent the country. It does represent... nothing, actually.

The racial demographics are pretty clear when it comes race. There is no dispute.

But then again, I dont understand why did you and Tennispro make this argument in to a racial one. After all, she/he posted those countries commenting how apparently everything about them is bad.
For some reason no one can actually that explain without retreating to hyperboles and empty slogans.

[May90]

We've been taking in different cultures for decades, Sweden still stands just fine and will continue to do so, the refugees are a drop in an ocean. Enjoy living in the US yet thinking you know what Sweden is like to live in based on fearmongering on a forum though.

Funny thing is, the US is much more authoritarian, crime-ridden and bad at controlling immigration (some 10+ million illegal immigrants) - but some people here surely love teaching countries ranking at the top of development indexes and happiness levels how to live.

[Queen of Hamsters]

Were the Jews causing crime out of proportion to their population levels pre-WWII? The refugees are.

The notion that because they haven't invented new crimes, therefore they are alright, is pure bollocks. They should be causing crime at a lower rate than locals, due to them being allowed into the country for their own safety, but that isn't the case is it?

Immigrants and their children have been overrepresented in crime/suspicion of crime for 40 years. MANY of them, are Northerners seeing how there are more people from Norway, Finland and Denmark in Sweden than from other countries, or has been at least, although the website I'm looking at doesn't suggest there's been any change in that department despite the waves of new refugees from Africa and the Middle East...

The situation is related to class differences and how society handles the people arriving. There are far FAR more immigrants/children of immigrants that are not involved in crime.

[Kalis]

IIRC the only immigrant groups that are close to Swedes in crime rates are the (south)east asians, the british and americans. Other groups are far higher.

Everyone knows they are, Mooneye kept spamming the stats every five minutes.

This claim that the refugees haven't created any problems by Rorcanna is only justifiable if they don't accept the more common meaning to the word 'create' you would use in this instance, it is pure nonsense and may well make sense in Swedish, but it fails as an argument in English.

[Theinquisition]

Just like the US is okay with their cops murdering and shooting everybody. Right?

If by everybody, you mean a tiny minority.

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The situation is related to class differences and how society handles the people arriving. There are far FAR more immigrants/children of immigrants that are not involved in crime.

Really? Why are the vietnamese doing so well in the crime rate compared to other migrant groups then if it's class differences? It's a poor country.

[Queen of Hamsters]

Funny thing is, the US is much more authoritarian, crime-ridden and bad at controlling immigration (some 10+ million illegal immigrants) - but some people here surely love teaching countries ranking at the top of development indexes and happiness levels how to live.

Yup, Sweden is going to hell, completely ignoring statistics (far less refugees arriving) and the fact that the number of refugees already here make up a drop in an ocean. Woe is us, I allegedly?

[Zoreyai]

Malmoe has no go zones, just as well as Copenhagen used to have certain areas near Blaagaards plads that were no go zones.

[Kalis]

Immigrants and their children have been overrepresented in crime/suspicion of crime for 40 years. MANY of them, are Northerners seeing how there are more people from Norway, Finland and Denmark in Sweden than from other countries, or has been at least, although the website I'm looking at doesn't suggest there's been any change in that department despite the waves of new refugees from Africa and the Middle East...

The situation is related to class differences and how society handles the people arriving. There are far FAR more immigrants/children of immigrants that are not involved in crime.

Do refugees have a higher or lower crime rate than native Swedes? I have seen the stats a number of times, so I know the answer, I am just curious as to whether you are an honest or dishonest poster.

[Deleted]

Nah, he will not comprehend that. Well said so far.

What is there to ''not comprehend''?!

Whoever seriously thinks that something as vague and vapid as that is an argument for something that leads to massive changes, not all for good?

''Happiness''... give me strength.

[AeneasBK]

Calling everyone racist who has a dissenting opinion is what led to rape gangs going unpunished for so long and enabling rapists is not particularly beneficial.

I totally agree. Not seeing the connection though.

[Dezerte]

Well duh, time only moves forward not backwards.