Putin suspends nuclear pact with US

[[KJ]]

I read that the US was not keeping up with their end of the bargain "honourably". The treaty was to reduce the amount of weapons grade plutonium they were producing by burning it in a reactor. Now the US as clever as they are refined this technique and was able to salvage a fair amount of the stuff, more then what was to be expected. Although they kept to the terms, the morals of it when they are expected to "reduce" is completely wrong and for what, more bombs, guess they want to be prepared?!?!? Typical US waving its John Thomas around. I love the US but arrogance runs deep. Now the Russians are not perfect either, they constantly send planes into/close to countries to purposely test the response time of the military and have to be escorted back.

Millions of ££ wasted on a penis waving contests.


And everyone is afraid of Trump....

[Flarelaine]

Perhaps the only reasonably successful model has been Pan-Han Chinese nationalism, but that's been utterly soaked in blood and shrouded in deeply illegitimate borders. Maybe one day the West will hold China to account for their "breed them out" colonialism strategy in Tibet, for example.

Won't matter if they finish it before the West grows balls to do that.

[Vinictus]

I will see how the media can relate this to the US election and blame Trump for it.

Its all clear to me now, this is to do with Trumps taxes

[Svad]

That topic on effectiveness of treaty had been discussed ever since that got signed, in context of WMD proliferation treaties, long before Putin came to office. Both treaties we not applied equally towards both countries: russian WMDs got scrapped/utilized (with US aid too), US WMDs got stored; russian plutonium was stored/disposed (and some of it stolen by some western secret service in Kazakhstan), US citizens got access to russian nuclear industry facilities, access to US nuclear industry facilities was denied numerous times. I'm not sure what's the situation on US plutonium, but as far as I know everything got stored with an option of immediate reactivation, numbers in the reports were there but no one was able to verify them.

I'm not going to question US government intent here but the fact is: these treaties as they are working now are not applied equally, are harmful to russian national security and are compromizing the nuclear balance.

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US backed out because these treaties can destroy the tools US and it's allies in the region created to overthrow Assad: an-Nusra and "armed opposition" (in reality people who want to violently overthrow the government have nothing to do with opposition).

Even when said goverment, is butchering its Citizens?

[Shalcker]

Is there any proof of that? Because if he his just pulling out because Russia is the only side actually following the treaty then kudos to him.

Quoting Washington Post:

The suspended nuclear accord, signed in 2000 and updated in 2010, required both countries to dispose of 34 tons of weapons-grade plutonium, enough to make approximately 17,000 nuclear weapons, according to a State Department document released after the 2010 signing.

Russia had already soured on the deal over differences with the United States on how to dispose of the plutonium. Moscow says it has already opened a plant that converts the weapons grade material into fuel know as MOX, which can be used in commercial reactors; construction of a similar U.S. plant in South Carolina has been plagued by delays and cost overruns.

The U.S. side has been split between those who want to build a plant as a way to encourage the Russians, and those who believe it safer and cheaper to dilute the plutonium into less harmful material and dispose of it, said George Perkovich, vice president for studies at the Carnegie Endowment for International Peace.

US spent 12 BILLIONS $ trying to built that plant other 16 years - with nothing to show for it.

When it became obvious that plant isn't going to make it by deadline of 2018 they made up scheme to dilute plutonium and supposedly make it safe and un-weaponizeable - except they refused to disclose what exactly they planned to mix it with and refused to allow oversight of process. Experts seem to say that it is quite hard to imagine some kind of plutonium mix that would be harder to perform chemical separation on then stuff it is already being separated from in the process of purification for nuclear weapons...

On Russian side we built plant that produces MOX fuel, and finished BN-800 that can use that MOX fuel - and US Congress even had oversight of that and demanded steel blankets as part of design (once they learned what "potential above 1.0 breeding ratio" part meant).

[Thunderball]

Even when said goverment, is butchering its Citizens?

Ok, let's be clear here, what would you prefer: the government that exists, controls the territory and borders, can be reasoned with, can be changed through the constitutional process or what happens in Lybia, Iraq or Afghanistan now (actually even worse, those still have formal government that controls a fraction of the territory, in case of Syria ISIS or Al'Qaeda will be the government).

All of those stuff about syrian government butchering it's citizens has no proof. Syrian government also doesnt have any motive to do that: Syrian society has been a well functioning multicultural entity before the war, the only problematic group are Kurds (who are separated between 3 countries and want to create their state), but I dont see any report of them being targeted by these events. I've also seen some pretty convincing evidence of Syrian governement being framed for chemical weaponry usage that were actually used by Al'Qaeda.

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What a bunch of bs, western Europe borders the Med n Atlantic Ocean = quick access to start colonialism n develop their countries on the backs of 3rd worlders they were ruthlessly exploiting.
While EE is mostly landlocked, had to deal with invasions from the east west n south (Ottomans).
How else do u explain that backwater countries like Portugal could rise so high?

LOL PORTUGAL

Btw who started two world wars with countless millions dead? Western Europe.

Plz stop talking about European history Skroe, u are as clueless as ever.

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I'm glad we aren't part of Merkel's braindead liberal utopia. Our socitiies will live on, you however not so sure.

U better start some classes in Arabic BWA HAA HAA HAA!

Your societies will definitely not live on, considering most of your young people are leaving those clunky dysfunctional countries of yours and coming to work and potentially live in "Merkel s braindead utopia".
What... You're one of the few left behind? Lucky you.

[Svad]

Ok, let's be clear here, what would you prefer: the government that exists, controls the territory and borders, can be reasoned with, can be changed through the constitutional process or what happens in Lybia, Iraq or Afghanistan now (actually even worse, those still have formal government that controls a fraction of the territory, in case of Syria ISIS or Al'Qaeda will be the government).

All of those stuff about syrian government butchering it's citizens has no proof. Syrian government also doesnt have any motive to do that: Syrian society has been a well functioning multicultural entity before the war, the only problematic group are Kurds (who are separated between 3 countries and want to create their state), but I dont see any report of them being targeted by these events. I've also seen some pretty convincing evidence of Syrian governement being framed for chemical weaponry usage that were actually used by Al'Qaeda.

Ok, mate ;-)

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Even when said goverment, is butchering its Citizens?

(US-backed) "moderate opposition aka freedom fighters aka syrian rebels" gets killed or hides behind civilians and therefore causes casualties -----> Western media freaks out cause "government is butchering its citizens"

[Ulmita]

Video concerning the big drills currently in Russia:

[Fuiking]

What a bunch of bs, western Europe borders the Med n Atlantic Ocean = quick access to start colonialism n develop their countries on the backs of 3rd worlders they were ruthlessly exploiting.
While EE is mostly landlocked, had to deal with invasions from the east west n south (Ottomans).
How else do u explain that backwater countries like Portugal could rise so high?

LOL PORTUGAL

Btw who started two world wars with countless millions dead? Western Europe.

Plz stop talking about European history Skroe, u are as clueless as ever.

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I'm glad we aren't part of Merkel's braindead liberal utopia. Our socitiies will live on, you however not so sure.

U better start some classes in Arabic BWA HAA HAA HAA!

You are aware that WW1 was a number of factors? And one of them actually backed up by the Russians to unite the Balkans under a pan Slavic rule? If the Tsar and the english King werent related the whole war would have been between Russia and German Empire and Austria-Hungary...

[Keeponrage]

If the Tsar and the english King werent related the whole war would have been between Russia and German Empire and Austria-Hungary...

Tensions between GB/France/Germany were the primary causes of WW1, simply because these were top 3 in Europe and in top 4 in a world, and interests of their capitalists clashed. Actually, GB had more tensions with Germany, than Germany had with Russia. Saying that GB got into a war just because Tsar and English king got related is as stupid as it can get. Also, Germany Kaiser Wilhelm II and Russian Tsar Nicholas II were cousins, and it didn't prevent a war.

[Thunderball]

You are aware that WW1 was a number of factors? And one of them actually backed up by the Russians to unite the Balkans under a pan Slavic rule? If the Tsar and the english King werent related the whole war would have been between Russia and German Empire and Austria-Hungary...

Ottomans were the primary opponent of Russia in the region for over a century. What really destabilized the situation was the fact that Austro-Hungary wanted to take territories from Ottomans without actually fighting for them. GB couldnt have stayed out of that war because 1) it was a prime chance to weaken Germany and Austro-Hungary by the hands of others (and this is exactly what Great Britain wanted from WWII) as Germany and Austro-Hungary couldnt attack Britain by land (and english fleet was superior, but as the war showed - by not that much) 2) Britain also backed Ottomans against Russia and Austro-Hungary, so if it was the war would be between Ottomans, Russia and Austro-Hungary (as it was projected to be initially), Britain would have probably openly supported Ottomans. Germany backing up the Austro-Hungary meant the World War was imminent however, so backing Russia was the most profitable thing to do.

[Chemii]

Thought this was quite good and relevant.

[Ulmita]

Russia considers military bases in Vietnam and Cuba: agencies


Russia is considering plans to restore military bases in Vietnam and Cuba that had served as pivots of Soviet global military power during the Cold War, Russian news agencies quoted Russian Deputy Defence Minister Nikolai Pankov as saying on Friday.'


"We are dealing with this issue," the agencies quoted Pankov as saying in Russia's parliament.
Russia lowered its flag at the Lourdes signals intelligence base in Cuba and the deepwater Cam Rahn naval base in Vietnam in the early 2000s as part of a drawing down of Russia's military presence around the world after the demise of the Soviet Union.


But since then, Moscow's foreign policy has become more assertive, leading to tensions with the United States and its allies over, among other issues, the conflicts in Ukraine and Syria, and the presence of NATO troops in eastern Europe.


Pankov said the Defence Ministry was currently "rethinking" past decisions on closure of the bases, but declined to go into detail. Vietnam’s foreign ministry did not immediately respond to a request for comment and Cuban officials were not available.


The United States is in the process of reviving its relations with Cuba, which in Soviet times had offered Moscow its closest military installation to U.S. territory, less than 100 miles (60 miles) from the Florida Keys.


"The global situation is not static, it is in flux, and the last two years have made significant changes to international affairs and security," Kremlin spokesman Dmitry Peskov told a conference call with reporters.


"Therefore, it's quite natural that all countries assess these changes in line with their national interests and take certain steps in the way they consider appropriate."
(Reporting by Dmitry Solovyov; Editing by Christian Lowe and Ralph Boulton)

http://www.reuters.com/article/us-ru...KCN1270PN?il=0

Here we go again.

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Thought this was quite good and relevant.

Yeah he wrecked him. It seems common sense is a rare commodity now days.

[Kellhound]

http://www.reuters.com/article/us-ru...KCN1270PN?il=0

Here we go again.

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Yeah he wrecked him. It seems common sense is a rare commodity now days.

The US is already in talks with Vietnam about using Cam Ranh Bay, and it is not a given Cuba will want anything to do with Russian troops now.

[Chemii]

http://www.reuters.com/article/us-ru...KCN1270PN?il=0

Here we go again.

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Yeah he wrecked him. It seems common sense is a rare commodity now days.

An yet you still have people thinking that Russia is like some big bad wolf of the world. There are many tyrants on this planet and the US is definitely among them. Propaganda still at work after all these years, sad really.

[Haven]

Putin and his band political party is desperate. The Russians themselves (the people) are a different kind of desperate. Desperate for a new leadership and a change in political arena. Sadly the opposition is always either killed, imprisoned or they just disappear.

What do you even know of Russia? Putin's popularity is at all-time high. Everyone in Russia knows that the West desires to make Russia into a banana republic, a resource appendage. And everyone sees that Putin is trying to return the might of Soviet Union. Need I say more?

[Kellhound]

What do you even know of Russia? Putin's popularity is at all-time high. Everyone in Russia knows that the West desires to make Russia into a banana republic, a resource appendage. And everyone sees that Putin is trying to return the might of Soviet Union. Need I say more?

All the more reason to keep them contained....

[Haven]

All the more reason to keep them contained....

Why? The world has seen 26 years of unilateral American domination. And what did it bring? Wars in Middle East, wars in Eastern Europe, industrial espionage in Europe, NSA spying on American citizens...