Hospital bills new father $40 to hold his son.

[Aleksej89]

I heard that, in normal civilized countries, most of health care is covered by taxes so everyone can use it like normal human beings.

[DrMcNinja]

I heard that, in normal civilized countries, most of health care is covered by taxes so everyone can use it like normal human beings.

We just have a mandatory, basic insurance that covers all basics

It includes:

A visit to your doctor (logic)
Ambulance, a stay at the hospital and treatment from specialists
Dentist up to 18 years
Maternity care and obstetrician
Physiotherapy up to 18 years
Apothecary costs

Other things which you need can be added as you please such as vaccins, certain specific treatments etc. at your own expense.

[xindralol]

yes, the second pill cost 5 dollars - but the first pill costs 5 billion.

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if you buy a game on steam - what do you think those $59.99 plus taxes are for? do you really think steam bandwidth is $60 for a couple gigabytes?

sry I missed up my quote thingy, meant to reply to the person you quoted

[Deleted]

Was he just born and still gooey and bloody?

I would pay the nurse 40 dollar to hold the baby for me instead.

[Endus]

No. I and others have proven - beyond any reasonable doubt - that your hypothetical cancer-curing pill costing 5$ and selling for 10,000$ isn't hypothetical anymore - but plainly ridiculously false, for a number of reasons.

You're still struggling with what "hypothetical" means. Hypotheticals can't be false, since they're not statements of truth, to begin with. You might mean "invalid", but since it was clearly intended to by a little exaggerated, that's not really the criticism you think.

You used that falsehood as propaganda to sell an idea of pharmaceutical companies being part of some conspiracy that are not interested in curing diseases whereas the problems in the US health industry are different. The pharmaceutical companies are global, developing drugs for a global market (where the US is one part), but the US health care industry problems are local.

That's a lie. I did not. I already pointed this out.

[Forogil]

You're still struggling with what "hypothetical" means. Hypotheticals can't be false, since they're not statements of truth, to begin with. You might mean "invalid", but since it was clearly intended to by a little exaggerated, that's not really the criticism you think.

You are just pedantically (and incorrectly) arguing semantics - about a statement that you both claim to be "little exaggerated" (when it is over-the-top ridiculously exaggerated) and at the same time suggesting it "could be true".

A hypothetical statement can in fact be shown to be false (or possibly true) - when combined with the rest of world.
However, your statement doesn't even get that far. Basically the basis for the hypothesis are false: a pill cannot realistically cure all cancers, and production costs (including R&D) wouldn't be 5$ - due to the cost of development divided by number of patients during the patent.

I have no idea why you hijacked a thread about a fairly US-specific issue with hospital bills (the cost of having a care-taker present for skin-contact is in not coupled to drug-prices) to show your ignorance about development of new drugs, global health, business behaviour among major pharmaceutical companies with R&D, and language.

However, instead of continuing this, I advise you to educate yourself about those issues.