People selling Full clears for real Money now OMG

[Atreyis]

I get that selling runs has always existed but at least it was done discreetly in the past. I can't stand how in your face the advertising is now.

[RobertMugabe]

so after the need carry now we get this

Well, it seems that a big chunk of the users here are offering boost services themselves, so it would surprise me if you'd get support for posting ^^

[Deleted]

I get that selling runs has always existed but at least it was done discreetly in the past. I can't stand how in your face the advertising is now.

How was it discreet? Back in BC, on my realm forum (they still existed back then), they were advertising bear sales in ZA and clearly specified "not for gold" (they didn't say "for $$$$" either, I admit that, but I think it was pretty clear). Back in vanilla, people were offering to sell gold in trade chat and included the price as well (in euro). You could report them day and night, nobody did anything about it.

I don't even think GMs are a thing anymore.

Hate to break it to you, but...it has always been this way.

[druenos]

Unfortunately there isn't much to report, anyone of these people who sell boots for real money and who are smarter than their shoe never mention real money in their advertisements or over other in-game communications and only talk about price/details over skype/discord/whatever. So because of that there's very little actual proof for Blizzard to ban them.

Or with minimal research you can go to the website they advertise and see it written down that they are selling boosts, isn't that proof of intent? On another note have you seen how much they charge for a mythic full run with loot, its about £500 lol, who in their right mind would pay those prices for virtual gear that will be obsolete in 6 months.

[Darkke]

I get that selling runs has always existed but at least it was done discreetly in the past. I can't stand how in your face the advertising is now.

It hasn't been anymore discreet ever. Basically if they ask you to contact them over Skype or whatever for details it's 99% change to be either for real money, scam or both.

[Deleted]

Or with minimal research you can go to the website they advertise and see it written down that they are selling boosts, isn't that proof of intent?

Blizzard employees don't go that far with their "checks". Basically, unless the seller is also raping their mums, they don't care.

On another note have you seen how much they charge for a mythic full run with loot, its about £500 lol, who in their right mind would pay those prices for virtual gear that will be obsolete in 6 months.

People who want to get in a progressing mythic guild NOW. I know a few who paid thousands to get full bis gear in order to be able to get into a specific guild. Not going to name names/guild, but let's just say that they're well known.

[Halfpipe]

that's actually kind of pathetic... no?

[Darkke]

Or with minimal research you can go to the website they advertise and see it written down that they are selling boosts, isn't that proof of intent? On another note have you seen how much they charge for a mythic full run with loot, its about £500 lol, who in their right mind would pay those prices for virtual gear that will be obsolete in 6 months.

Problem is that who are you going to ban over that? The lvl 1 trial account spamming trade about the website? There's never any player names on those sites, and if Blizzard asks about the run they are just going to say that they are boosting a friend for fun. Since all the actual communication happens outside of the game and they don't move gold around there is very little Blizzard can do about it.

[Deleted]

that's actually kind of pathetic... no?

No more than spending money on stuff that other people think is idiotic.
Expensive bike? Expensive cars? Expensive, uhm...."Escorts"? Expensive clothes? That's actually kind of pathetic...no?

For some people, hardcore raiding is the highlight of their days...and nights. For some people, 500 means a lot. For others, it's a drop in a bucket. A guy I know IRL paid 700 for some Kanye West shoes off ebay. Which one is worse?

Their money, their time, their fun.

[Deleted]

On another note have you seen how much they charge for a mythic full run with loot, its about £500 lol, who in their right mind would pay those prices for virtual gear that will be obsolete in 6 months.

The same people who spent hundreds to thousands of pounds on a vacation, or on any other hobby I assume?

[Okacz]

Why are you blaming casuals when the mythic raiders are offering the service? Casuals couldn't do it if the Mythic Raider didn't offer it as a service. Or is it 'Blame casuals for everything' time? If the Mythic raider wasn't offering it there wouldn't be any casuals in there doing it. Perhaps you need to place blame where it belongs instead of blaming everything on casuals, when you put that sauce on every fucking thing it becomes hard to take you seriously when you actually have a point about casuals because we hear that shit all the time.
But that would mean blaming people you identify with. It is like blaming casuals for caches with mythic gear in it because "Bliz may as well mail you your purple epics" when they have to kill 21 independent heroic raid bosses to get that and yet Mythic Raiders continue to sell BOP mythic gear on the auction house for gold which literally gets mailed to your mailbox. It is okay so long as you personally can profit but if there is another way that requires doing something besides handing you gold then "Oh Hell No!"

I don't know why anybody is supposed to be to blame here. Oh, somebody is selling a service that is mildly illegal within the game rules, and someone else buys it. For all I care, sure, let them spend money on progress in the game, which is probably the stupidest thing you can do with what you earn. It's like spending more on a ticket to the cinema for someone to tell you how the movie will end in the middle of it.

What is to blame tho might be the design of the raid, and how easy it is to boost people through it. But, since it's been up forever, nothing can be done about that.

[Deleted]

"Now". This has been around for a loooong time.


It's impossible to track/prove if people are not stupid about it.

It's fairly easy to prove, buy a boost, then list all the raid members in the group, send print screens, and voila they'll all be banned the next day. Don't do it on your main account, as they'll ban your account too.

[Deleted]

Joined Sep 2016
Yeah, well...everything except the Escorts

I know you're just joking, but to me, that's pathetic...for example. As pathetic as buying 700 sneakers. Whereas buying gear is something I can understand. I'd never do it myself (I think), but I can perfectly understand why some people do it.

I used to be in a top guild - a long time ago. Every now and then, we'd have an opening. We'd "need" a specific class/spec, we'd need it THEN and we'd need it GEARED, for progress. That was the "once in a lifetime" opportunity for some people to join the guild. Have the char then, have the gear then. Not in two months. So if you wanted in (and plenty of people wanted in), you either were lucky enough to have the char and gear right then or you'd miss that opportunity. That was it.

That's why some people buy gear for real money now too. Some people want to get in guilds. They might have the gear, but not the class. There's no time to "reroll" and gear up the old fashioned way - they need the char NOW. It's quite amusing when they do it and then fail the trial. Tough luck.

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It's fairly easy to prove, buy a boost, then list all the raid members in the group, send print screens, and voila they'll all be banned the next day. Don't do it on your main account, as they'll ban your account too.

So, basically, I should spend 50-100 on a new account/char (has to be level 110, right?) + 500 for the boost/gear, just to get Blizzard to do their jobs - and then I also get banned in the process, right?

Great idea...I guess...?

[Ozoi]

Haha come on man. This has been going on since Vanilla everyone knows that. Every day I logged in I saw trade and LFG chat being spammed with tons of guilds selling Naxx and AQ40 clears. Its been going on since forever haha, why complain about it? Even in TBC being were selling Black Temple runs left and right the first month it was released. Its nothing new man stop complaining.

Sincerely,

Someone who is selling EN clears for cash and didn't start playing WoW until Wotlk

[Rehok]

This has been the case since vanilla and is not allowed. So you can report it, if you see it.

Nothing new, but should be reported as it isn't permitted.

Doubt reporting actually does anything, I've reported people who actively promote a company that sells a bunch of services like mount farming, Leveling, RBG Carries, Hell even full blown glad accounts and blizzard do nothing against the company or the people actively promoting it.

[Darsithis]

Report it to Blizzard. There is nothing we can do about it here and since it is against the ToS we really don't discuss it, either.