Science must Fall?

[Sky High]

Because of demographics, how many black female college students choose to major in STEM fields vs. non-STEM fields?

don't know, don't care.

[Post]

I feel like this lady really is more into the crunchy hippy cult "science"... and less into real facts. So I am less prone to believe in her crusade... but in the right persons hands her concept could prove useful to humanity.

Yeah totally, forgetting all the progress we've made and regressing to where we know nothing sounds very useful to humanity.

[Fayenoor]

Yeah totally, forgetting all the progress we've made and regressing to where we know nothing sounds very useful to humanity.

I think what she is trying to say is that the west have their own way of interpreting natural phenomenon (like Gravity) and the culture she comes from have their own way of interpreting the same. The two explanations might be contradictory and so the west has no business imposing their "science" on top of their beliefs. So, science needs to be "decolonized" so each culture can find their own way of explaining the same natural phenomenon in their own way.

This is a very bizarre way of thinking. I think this comes from being colonized and ostracized by the west for years and thus rejecting anything (including science) which might be "western".

I am going to counter her by saying that Science really doesn't belong to anyone - including the west. E.g. the number system the west adopted for "science" is Arabic. It is true that cultures and society which are more politically and financially influential will impose their versions of "science" and reject scientific explanations from less politically powerful countries.

Case in point: Hideki Yukawa proposed the concept on Mesons back in 1935 in Japan; but it was only when he moved West and became Professor of Columbia University that he got recognition for his work. It was mostly Einstein who believed his meson theory till the pion was actually discovered much later.

[Post]

I think what she is trying to say is that the west have their own way of interpreting natural phenomenon (like Gravity) and the culture she comes from have their own way of interpreting the same. The two explanations might be contradictory and so the west has no business imposing their "science" on top of their beliefs. So, science needs to be "decolonized" so each culture can find their own way of explaining the same natural phenomenon in their own way.

Then you might want to disagree with the person I quoted because I replied to how they interpreted the video.

[Vash The Stampede]

I think the west has a lot to be accountable for with regards to poverty in Africa, but i think lashing out at science is misguided.

As much as people want to blame the west, try to consider this. Japan was nuked by Americans and today they're like a leader in technology and economics. They're also not white. Germany was decimated, cut in half, and only recently unified and is now practically the leader of Europe. Both an economic power house, and a technological one.

Africa has no excuse. It's now considered normal to have HIV in Africa. That's not caused by the west. I guarantee you the anti-virus treatments they get are caused by the west.

[S7orm]

Happy Year 476 South Africa

[Venant]

Because of demographics, how many black female college students choose to major in STEM fields vs. non-STEM fields? I say encourage them to give up art for science.

Why should they have to give up the arts for science to be in the STEM field? Don't you think a thorough understanding of anti-colonial theory is necessary for all fields? I think the only solution here is to take people who major in areas related to social justice and promote them directly to management roles in STEM, that way they can simply be in charge of people who already know what they are doing.

[Rudkobing]

WOW. Words can't even describe the ignorance of that person. Decolonize the mind?

[Deleted]

What's happening in South Africa is a gimpse of the future of US

[May90]

"someone somewhere said something dumb!" alright. not sure why I should give a shit.

Because evil SJWs are destroying our world!!! You should be outraged!!!

[Sky High]

What's happening in South Africa is a gimpse of the future of US

"echoing across dozens of college campuses"

[Gref]

Disgusting to watch .Sometimes I worry so much that one day with a huge war or something all our brightest will die while these hipsters sjws are hiding, refusing to act etc and the world is left to them. Disgusting.

[Powerogue]

I think what she is trying to say is that the west have their own way of interpreting natural phenomenon (like Gravity) and the culture she comes from have their own way of interpreting the same. The two explanations might be contradictory and so the west has no business imposing their "science" on top of their beliefs. So, science needs to be "decolonized" so each culture can find their own way of explaining the same natural phenomenon in their own way.

And she made it abundantly clear which direction hers would lead. It's like she wants to redefine science to just be "what <insert group here> subjectively thinks is the right way to learn about the world", which is stupid.

[Collegeguy]

This thread needs to be decolonized.

[PC2]

Because evil SJWs are destroying our world!!! You should be outraged!!!

Mocking and ridiculing people with an irrational ideology never gets old.

[zebreck]

As someone who has done medical anthropology in the past, these sorts of debates happen all the damn time in my profession. At the end of the day, there is really only one viable explanation for this sort of thing: There is no such thing as "western knowledge." There's scientific knowledge, which is proven factual via experiment, and there is literally everything else, which is either proven unfactual or is simply untested. There does exist a western framework of analogy and reference in which those facts exist and were tested, but their wrapping paper does not in any meaningful way invalidate their objective existence. This young woman openly admits to not understanding what science IS at the fundamental level, and clearly does not understand the difference between fact and truth. Good thing she's in college, perhaps she'll stumble into a philosophy of science class and learn something enlightening.

[Runenwächter]

There is a perfect video to describe the only possible response to this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hkodTydUR0E

[RaoBurning]

As in do this to her?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ExitLAP6F9U

I just meant the part about science kicking magic/superstition's ass, even when the magic shit is real; not the actual assault part. Forgot all about that, to be honest. Need to watch more Rick and Morty.

[Mafic]

Science is science...why do people try to use identity politics to create wedges?

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As someone who has done medical anthropology in the past, these sorts of debates happen all the damn time in my profession. At the end of the day, there is really only one viable explanation for this sort of thing: There is no such thing as "western knowledge." There's scientific knowledge, which is proven factual via experiment, and there is literally everything else, which is either proven unfactual or is simply untested. There does exist a western framework of analogy and reference in which those facts exist and were tested, but their wrapping paper does not in any meaningful way invalidate their objective existence. This young woman openly admits to not understanding what science IS at the fundamental level, and clearly does not understand the difference between fact and truth. Good thing she's in college, perhaps she'll stumble into a philosophy of science class and learn something enlightening.

Cultural relativism is a major topic in cultural and general anthropology. But I think the video is taking the argument for respect of cultural relativism too far. Science was a big part of our ancestor in Africa via trial and error so I find it surprising that these students do not know this from an anthropological point of view.

[Deleted]

As someone who has done medical anthropology in the past, these sorts of debates happen all the damn time in my profession. At the end of the day, there is really only one viable explanation for this sort of thing: There is no such thing as "western knowledge." There's scientific knowledge, which is proven factual via experiment, and there is literally everything else, which is either proven unfactual or is simply untested. There does exist a western framework of analogy and reference in which those facts exist and were tested, but their wrapping paper does not in any meaningful way invalidate their objective existence. This young woman openly admits to not understanding what science IS at the fundamental level, and clearly does not understand the difference between fact and truth. Good thing she's in college, perhaps she'll stumble into a philosophy of science class and learn something enlightening.

What the hell is medical anthropology anyway?. Anthropology shouldn't be even called a science. It's insulting.