Republican Election 2016 - Donald Trump Megathread [OFFICIAL]

[cubby]

There's also a chance the republican senate will try and get Obama's nominee through in the handover period before Clinton is sworn in, but I don't think their base will let them. They are just too crazy now to be reasoned with and will see any moves in that direction as another betrayal by their leaders, despite such actions forestalling an even more liberal Clinton appointee.

That's an interesting thought. Obama and Clinton control that process by withdrawing the name if they would rather wait for a new (and possibly Democratic) Senate I could see Clinton asking Obama to withdraw the name. Could Garland refuse to withdraw his name?

[DeadmanWalking]

Woah hey now aren't you forgetting? That's totally not on us business men! Of course we're going to take advantage of the backwards system, of course. You can't just expect people to be decent human beings when money is on the line! It's up to Hillary Clinton and solely her to keep us in check! Cause if she won't do it then I'll run for presidency myself and make sure I make less profit!

It would at least make him somewhat believable when he says, "I will bring jobs back to America." if he also said, "And to put my money where my mouth is I will no longer be using a dozen other countries slave labor to produce any of my products, from now on every one of my products will be produced in the States. Hell I have Billions of dollars, I can afford to invest in you!" But we didn't hear anything like that.

[Dextroden]

Oh I'm sorry, do you have Attention Deficit Disorder where you can't make it to the end of a paragraph where I specifically said that?


Or can you just not handle it when both sides are equally disparaged and you have to add one more Demo insult to make it fit your opinions?

Ah. Actually, I'm impressed to find people that are laughing at both. Not so much the indignant rage for finding it funnier Democrats don't like probes when they are the target.

[Breccia]

CNN reports Trump is only up by two in Georgia. Doubtful Clinton will make a play for that state -- even with her ridiculous war chest she can't afford to stretch herself thin -- but the fact that it's that close is pretty telling.

[DeadmanWalking]

And lets not forget, for a guy whose qualifications are his shrewd businessman knowledge he has canceled all of his advertisements in the big swing states (of which some are now leaning democrat) for the last 4 weeks of the election because he ran out of money, because his money generating machine is shit and he has practically no get out the vote ground game in any states. Sure he hires the best people but if you don't listen to them then it doesn't matter if you hired the smartest person or a horny babboon.

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Ah. Actually, I'm impressed to find people that are laughing at both. Not so much the indignant rage for finding it funnier Democrats don't like probes when they are the target.

I'm not a democrat just because I don't want a Trump presidency, I am an independent. I use to be a democrat in my youth but there are parts to both parties that I find good and bad these days. And Rubio said it best when he said to Republicans spouting wikileaks, "Be careful because today it may be Democrats they are targeting but tomorrow it could be Republicans." Wikileaks just wants to see the world burn, and if you don't have shit to lose that may sound like a great deal but when you do have shit to lose you don't hang out with people who don't.

[alexw]

That's an interesting thought. Obama and Clinton control that process by withdrawing the name if they would rather wait for a new (and possibly Democratic) Senate I could see Clinton asking Obama to withdraw the name. Could Garland refuse to withdraw his name?

Its not up to him. The president decides these things. I don't know if Obama would withdraw Garland's nomination though. Getting another SCOTUS judge would add to his legacy, but given how nasty and hateful republicans have personally been to him he might just want to give them a big "fuck you" sign, and letting Clinton put in a liberal would do that. But I think this is moot. The republican base isn't going to let their politicians put through a moderate, they are too batshit insane to see that it would be in their best interests, and would instead see it as another RINO establishment betrayal. But that's what they get for creating a post-factual post-evidence feels before reals reality denying party.

[Felya]

People that are supposedly against corruption should have no problem with a third party doing a probe. Or are they to be trusted blindly?

I don't see how all of the evidance observed by US government and independent agencies are being ignored blindly by me. I'm not the one who trusts Trump and only Trump.

By the way... why is Assange hidden? Why doesn't he have the free will to come to US and high five all those liberals? That's how blind you are...

[ControlWarrior]

And lets not forget, for a guy whose qualifications are his shrewd businessman knowledge he has canceled all of his advertisements in the big swing states (of which some are now leaning democrat) for the last 4 weeks of the election because he ran out of money, because his money generating machine is shit and he has practically no get out the vote ground game in any states. Sure he hires the best people but if you don't listen to them then it doesn't matter if you hired the smartest person or a horny babboon.

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I'm not a democrat just because I don't want a Trump presidency, I am an independent. I use to be a democrat in my youth but there are parts to both parties that I find good and bad these days. And Rubio said it best when he said to Republicans spouting wikileaks, "Be careful because today it may be Democrats they are targeting but tomorrow it could be Republicans." Wikileaks just wants to see the world burn, and if you don't have shit to lose that may sound like a great deal but when you do have shit to lose you don't hang out with people who don't.

Yeah, I call bullshit on anyone claiming to be an independent. People tend to lean ideologically one way more than the other. It's okay though, I hear this from a lot of qualified voters all the time.

[Noxx79]

Yeah, I call bullshit on anyone claiming to be an independent. People tend to lean ideologically one way more than the other. It's okay though, I hear this from a lot of qualified voters all the time.

Independent means "not democrat or republican" NOT "not liberal or conservative", at least in every instance I've heard it used.

[Felya]

A guy who talks like an asshole is worse than someone who is incompetent and shady?

I am sorry, what exactly makes Trump competent and transparent? If those are the same as Hillary, all you are doing is defending an asshole...

[zenkai]

I am sorry, what exactly makes Trump competent and transparent? If those are the same as Hillary, all you are doing is defending an asshole...

Can't compare since he's not in office. But you're right he can be just as incompetent or more.

[alexw]

By the way, here's a conservative's take on the GOP after this election.

Look at the facts: Donald Trump is not a Republican. He has not consistently advocated or defended any of our principles, including protecting unborn human life, the Second Amendment, exceptional American leadership abroad, free speech or economic opportunity. He is essentially a third-party independent populist who exploited a five-car pileup in the “establishment” lane of the GOP to secure the nomination.

Voters understand that. It’s why–at this point–down-ballot Republican candidates are generally running ahead of Trump in the polls, especially in statewide races, even as Democrats push the limits of facts and logic trying to tie GOP candidates to him.

Except republican internal polling is showing the democrats on track for a 25 seat gain in the house, so they are not running ahead. Worse still the direction of travel is in the wrong direction (for them).

[Breccia]

And since the margin of error is 4% they're basically tied(or Trump is actually up by 6).

Okay that's really not how margins of error work. Trump is still ahead.

[ControlWarrior]

Independent means "not democrat or republican" NOT "not liberal or conservative", at least in every instance I've heard it used.

People usually label themselves this way to show how "thoughtful" and "above the fray" they are. It gets a little annoying.

[Felya]

Yeah, I call bullshit on anyone claiming to be an independent. People tend to lean ideologically one way more than the other. It's okay though, I hear this from a lot of qualified voters all the time.

I call bullshit on ascribing an ideology based on a lean. Unless you support the ideology completely, there is no point in claiming to belong to it. You are are describing your limitation of needing to belong. It's why you flip your shit when a part of your ideology that you disagree with, is assumed about you, due to your identification. It is also what has some republicans voting for Trump, when he is the antithesis of the party.

[Breccia]

I am sorry, what exactly makes Trump competent and transparent?

How about those tax returns? We gonna see those anytime soon?

[Felya]

People usually label themselves this way to show how "thoughtful" and "above the fray" they are. It gets a little annoying.

Equaly annoying as when you are asked to defends points of your ideology that you don't ascribe to?

[Kujako]

Okay that's really not how margins of error work. Trump is still ahead.

Specifically, he could be ahead by as much as 6 or behind by as much as 2. And there is a lot of evidence to support the idea that the margin of error uses in such poling is off by a factor of as much as 2x.

[ControlWarrior]

I call bullshit on ascribing an ideology based on a lean. Unless you support the ideology completely, there is no point in claiming to belong to it. You are are describing your limitation of needing to belong. It's why you flip your shit when a part of your ideology that you disagree with, is assumed about you, due to your identification. It is also what has some republicans voting for Trump, when he is the antithesis of the party.

But, you do have an opinion right? That is my point! Sorry to upset your apple cart guys. Independent means squat in a two party system.

[Felya]

Can't compare since he's not in office. But you're right he can be just as incompetent or more.

Trump is not a fucking newborn, he has 30+ years in the public eye. But, even by that standard, you are agreeing that the differance between the two is that he is an asshole?