Bernie Sanders for 2020.

[alexw]

Do you think he will run? Normally the primary runner-up goes for the presidency in the next election cycle. That happened with McCain, Romney, and Clinton, so it sets an extremely strong precedent. The one issue is age, but if he holds up well, do you think he will run again? And if he chooses a youngish VP will he win against whoever the republicans put up?

To add to the debate this is what he has already said -

http://www.cnbc.com/2016/11/10/berni...house-run.html

"Four years is a long time from now," said the 75-year-old Vermont senator, noting that he faces re-election to the Senate in 2018. But he added: "We'll take one thing at a time, but I'm not ruling out anything."

Plus it looks like the Bernites are making a play to replace much if not most of the democratic party leadership with a focus on swamp draining -

http://www.politico.com/story/2016/1...es-back-231259

The revolution is back in business.

Supporters of Bernie Sanders' failed presidential bid are seizing on Democratic disarray at the national level to launch a wave of challenges to Democratic Party leaders in the states.

The goal is to replace party officials in states where Sanders defeated Hillary Clinton during the acrimonious Democratic primary with more progressive leadership. But the challenges also represent a reckoning for state party leaders who, in many cases, tacitly supported Clinton's bid.

and

In Nebraska, another state where the Vermont senator defeated Clinton in the caucuses, the upheaval took place in June, not long after the state caucuses. Prominent Sanders supporter Jane Kleeb doesn’t actually take office until December but she’s already taking steps to overhaul the party by bringing in Sanders activists and supporters.

So far, the incoming chairman's focus has been to replace lobbyists and centrist donors with activist liberals. Kleeb said 70 percent of her appointments are Sanders supporters.

"I've already made my appointments and I think that's to the disappointment of some traditional Democrats," she said, pointing to the Sanders backers she brought in to party committees, and one to serve as an associate chairman of the state party.

Hawaii Democrats also installed a new Sanders-connected state chairman, Tim Vandeveer, in the months after Sanders decisively defeated Clinton in the state’s March caucuses. A liberal activist and outspoken Sanders supporter, Vandeveer said since Trump's win on Tuesday he's focused on re-calibrating his party there and wanted his party to lean more on its backbone, organized labor.

"I mean, without laying blame, and I've seen a thousand different sources laying blame at the feet of a thousand different people, we have to recognize that what we did in this last election didn't work. Whatever the reason, whatever the reason it didn't work," Vandeveer said. "We have a model, it wasn't invented by Bernie Sanders but was certainly utilized by Bernie Sanders, of organizing and appealing to the frustrations of working class voters that did work in some of the most progressive states in our country, the traditional Democratic states, which Secretary Clinton unfortunately did not carry. And that model needs, in my opinion, to come to the fore once again. Because Democrats have got to find their mojo and people right now are scared."

The plan, Vandeveer said, is to work more on organizing with labor unions and move toward the Sanders model of fundraising.

"I think we've got to do what I just said, which is organize, start training our people, start being more transparent with the way we're funding our party and it means returning our funding by and large to grassroots donations," he said. "And that's not an ideological thing. That, in my mind, is something that makes good financial sense because the party in my opinion has been a series of peaks and valleys financially."

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Isnt he 93 already?

[Army Dreamer]

Do you think he will run?

In a coffin?

[Medusa Cascade]

I hear animatronics have come a long way

[GennGreymane]

Maybe if his brain is in a robot body

[alexw]

In a coffin?

The Bernie Sanders coffin is planning to run against the Donald Trump coffin, yes.

[Ripster42]

My bet/hope is warren. She'll be pretty old though too (although still 8 years younger than bernie).

[Theodarzna]

I think there will be a pleading outcry for it, but Sanders is very old and I don't know if he can do it again.

Maybe CA's Kamala Harris? Or Warren in 2020. The problem is that Obama and the Clintons have left the party weak in the state level and with few "rising stars," to pick from.

Or maybe someone outside of politics altogether.

[IIamaKing]

The man is too old.

[Kuntantee]

Too old. America us a hard country to run. It would be disastrous for the poor man's health even if he lives long enough.

[Deleted]

This reminded me of something
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0kWaKhrpa28

[Evil Midnight Bomber]

There was already concern this time around that Bernie was too old. In 2020 he'll be 79...10 years older than Reagan was when he took office.

[Mistame]

My bet/hope is warren.

Better a Bernie in a Box than Warren. She's worse than Bernie, who's worse than Clinton.

[Matchles]

Too old. America us a hard country to run. It would be disastrous for the poor man's health even if he lives long enough.

Trump is just learning this. Every time I see him post election he looks shell shocked or scared to death.

[Kallisto]

He'll be too old.

Who the Democrats need to have running is someone from one of the states that almost always went blue but went red this time around. Someone who knows or at least lived near those who voted Trump this time around from those states, who can talk to them but most of all listen to them. But instead of Trumps goals which won't work (They're not coming back and all the tarrifs in the world isn't going to turn a "I can pay 1000 chinese workers same as 1 American worker" into something not profitable). Promise them that you'll focus on building new high tech industrial work to the regions. Stuff that only places like the US, Canada, Western Europe can build.

For the older generation generous early retirement packages or have them be the teachers that instruct the younger generation in these industrial fields, building a future so many want to stay instead of running to NY/LA/Wherever. The added bonus being new high tech industrial plants need infrastructure to run. Which also means new roads build, maybe rail lines, but also homes, offices, service and other jobs in the region. (The VP needs to be from the south.)

At the same time paying lip service to the cities which they basically have already, try to make a policy on helping the inner cities rise up too as a means to bring them out of poverty and into work.

Another problem I think Sanders will have other than his age will be he's from New England. While he'd likely do better than Hillary did in the EC many who stayed home for the Republicans (I think Trump got less votes than Mitt Romney did against Obama) might come out to stop a New England Liberal elite president.

[Exedore]

If the democrats want to lose again, sure.

Trump won because he picked up the working class vote in the rust belt, which have voted mostly democrat since Bill Clinton. Do you think Bernie Sanders or Liz Warren can reclaim that or steal a demographic from Trump? I doubt it.

[PC2]

Yes Bernie should run. I dont remember him making voting appeals based on genitals. Basketing other groups as deplorable. Just stick to the policy.

[PACOX]

Nah, he'll be too old.

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Yes Bernie should run. I dont remember him making voting appeals based on genitals. Basketing other groups as deplorable. Just stick to the policy.

People vote for all short of stupid reasons but you're salty that some people chose to vote because they wanted to see a woman president? Hilarious.

Is that any different than voting for a pussy grabber because he "tells it like it is"?

[Shadowmelded]

Since the age thing has been mentioned already I'd only add that after 4 (hopefully) years of Trump, the public might not be as open to populism next time around.

[Wyrt]

I think there will be a pleading outcry for it, but Sanders is very old and I don't know if he can do it again.

Maybe CA's Kamala Harris? Or Warren in 2020. The problem is that Obama and the Clintons have left the party weak in the state level and with few "rising stars," to pick from.

Or maybe someone outside of politics altogether.

Being from CA will be an uphill battle for Harris since people tend to hate CA.