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  1. #81
    Quote Originally Posted by Psykee View Post
    That leaves you even worse.

    You wont have anywhere near enough information to make strong decisions from.
    Imagine education from your argument. If the students cant directly observe atoms they dont exist what? How are you gonna teach psychologists without theories of something we cannot yet truthfully see with our own eyes, but still works in the field?

    The key is being an educated citizen being able to make logical decisions and being able to discern as much truth and logic from the information presented to them, and make the best ration decisions from that.

    You cant live in a cave and be uneducated and solve todays problems, nor can you take any information at face value.

    The tricky solution is the middle of the road.
    I may be dumb, but I'm not stupid.

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    I noticed today that all pictures of Trump, he now has an even tan across his face.

    Is he being photoshopped now? Or is he actually spending more than 14.99 a month on a tanning solution?

  3. #83
    Quote Originally Posted by Kangodo View Post
    Yes, because fake news is the truth.
    Clinton clearly has epilepsy or brain damage or whatever they make up.
    And let's not forget how Obama is a Kenyan Muslim.
    How can I even forget to mention Pizzagate.
    Those were made up by Libtards to make Republicans look bad, and to hide their sex tunnels. #getwoke

  4. #84
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    Trump just showed to me there are a lot of asshats in america voting for bigotry, racism and hatred against minorities just to have "a change", even if it was a change to destroy everything america is about.
    Last edited by mmoc903ad35b4b; 2016-12-11 at 05:50 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by buck008 View Post
    Eh, Trump won because he managed to convince people he was a populist that gives a shit about the working class. He isn't and doesn't, but disenfranchised middle America felt like he spoke for them for some reason. Apparently enough so that they could overlook the obviously terrible things he said and did.

    I mean, he is a member of the media, or was. So it's not like he was some outsider fighting against the modern liberal media. It's not like this myth of a liberal news media holds much water when held up to reality anyway. I mean, Hollywood tends to skew liberal, sure. The biggest news network by far is Fox though. Rush Limbaugh rules the radio news circuit. The internet has plenty of both outlets.

    But this is the kind of reductionist, dismissive non-argument that passes for political discourse these days. If it doesn't agree with you it is fake, etc. In any case, Trump didn't win because of any ideological shift, any rebelling against SJWs, or any such inane bullshit people post online. He won because he lied his ass off about caring about the working class and being able to protect their jobs at a time when much of the middle class felt abandoned by the government. He's only going to increase the tax burden on the middle class and empower corporate interests to abuse them more than they already do. Like the bullshit where people are blaming the $15 an hour minimum wage movement for companies like McDonald's trying out more automation as if that is something that could be developed in six months and not something that has already been in the works for years.
    Trump had the help of running against a very damaged and corrupt individual. In an election that is "Lesser of Two Evils," it will come down to whose base is more dedicated, AND in America where that base is located geographically.

    The issue is ultimately IMHO that the ruling class needs a scapegoat for failure to control the narrative and thinks its cheaper to just find new means of contriving the narrative than fixing any systemic problems.
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    i think I have my posse filled out now. Mars is Theo, Jupiter is Vanyali, Linadra is Venus, and Heather is Mercury. Dragon can be Pluto.
    On MMO-C we learn that Anti-Fascism is locking arms with corporations, the State Department and agreeing with the CIA, But opposing the CIA and corporate America, and thinking Jews have a right to buy land and can expect tenants to pay rent THAT is ultra-Fash Nazism. Bellingcat is an MI6/CIA cut out. Clyburn Truther.

  6. #86
    Honestly, at this point you guys should just draw a line down the centre of the the US and put all the Liberals on the West side and the Conservatives on the East Side. You guys gave it a good go as the United States...but clearly that moniker no longer applies


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    Quote Originally Posted by sarahtasher View Post
    How are those apologies ? At the very worse, they are saying that they underestimate Trump popular support.
    They are saying they are sorry for not leaving their perspectives and just pushing what's in their bubble.
    Here it is in audio form:
    https://youtu.be/xH8CuuTXq-w?t=2m28s
    just the clip, CBA finding it in their backlog.

  8. #88
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    Quote Originally Posted by IntellectuallyChallenged View Post
    I may be dumb, but I'm not stupid.
    Thats fine, but it wont solve the problems with that stance. Being naturally clever aint cutting for tomorrows problems.

  9. #89
    Quote Originally Posted by GoblinP View Post
    They are saying they are sorry for not leaving their perspectives and just pushing what's in their bubble.
    Here it is in audio form:
    https://youtu.be/xH8CuuTXq-w?t=2m28s
    just the clip, CBA finding it in their backlog.
    Did you read the NY editorial ? It take 2 minutes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sicari View Post
    Honestly, at this point you guys should just draw a line down the centre of the the US and put all the Liberals on the West side and the Conservatives on the East Side. You guys gave it a good go as the United States...but clearly that moniker no longer applies

    Fuck that. NY dosent want the burden of subsidization of all those states by itself.

  11. #91
    Quote Originally Posted by Kiri View Post
    It is a criminal act, so it should act. Especially if it was indeed conducted by a foreign power. Just because the contents also matter does not mean that the acquisition is irrelevant.
    Yea it is a criminal act. The only problem its not the first or last time it will be done. It was just the most Media focused one.

  12. #92
    Quote Originally Posted by rym View Post
    Trump just showed to me there are a lot of asshats im america voting for bigotry, racism and hatred against minorities just to have "a change", even if it was a change to destroy everything america is about.
    Yes, that was the primary motivation to vote for Trump. Yep.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Frogguh View Post
    Yes, that was the primary motivation to vote for Trump. Yep.
    Ah no its all about voting the conservative Bernie into office, right?

  14. #94
    Quote Originally Posted by Theodarzna View Post
    Trump had the help of running against a very damaged and corrupt individual. In an election that is "Lesser of Two Evils," it will come down to whose base is more dedicated, AND in America where that base is located geographically.

    The issue is ultimately IMHO that the ruling class needs a scapegoat for failure to control the narrative and thinks its cheaper to just find new means of contriving the narrative than fixing any systemic problems.
    She had a lot of manufactured, nonissues that were turned into huge things through repetition and exaggeration. If not outright lies. She is no more or less damaged or corrupt than Trump or any other politician. She is not charismatic in the least, stood in the shadow of a far more likable former president husband, and was up against someone that knows how to play the media like a finely tuned instrument. That's why she lost. She tried to play all the usual games that politicians use to control the narrative. People didn't buy it from her because they don't like her and because Trump is better at playing those games. He's been a media personality for decades.

    Every election is a "lesser of two evils." That's the way we designed our system. It all comes down to personality and who lies in a more convincing manner.

  15. #95
    "Fake news" is just another rebranding of the left's most common tactic, silencing opposing arguments lol

  16. #96
    Ok guys, how would you call ''Obumer is a kenyan muslim'' or ''Hillary will be dead in november'' news ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zolaris192 View Post
    "Fake news" is just another rebranding of the left's most common tactic, silencing opposing arguments lol
    Yes, because screaming' ''FEMA DEATH CAMPS ! JADE HELM'' is obviously accurate.

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    The scariest fake news i remember was about Hillary being head of a child porn ring.

    There even was some american hillbillie with a gun visting the place where the desinformant said the hq of that ring was.

    And even the son of Trumps new military advisor retweetet that one.

    Seems, the right wing agitpropers even believe their own fake news. Which is quite funny.

  18. #98
    Quote Originally Posted by Zolaris192 View Post
    "Fake news" is just another rebranding of the left's most common tactic, silencing opposing arguments lol
    No, you just only notice it when people you disagree with do it. Or you only care in that circumstance. Either way. You aren't alone in that though, intellectual dishonesty is a very common trait.

  19. #99
    Quote Originally Posted by GennGreymane View Post
    Fuck that. NY dosent want the burden of subsidization of all those states by itself.
    No...You just move all them libs in NY over to California or some such

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aggrophobic View Post
    Ehm... Or, you know, his mail was not hacked so you didn't get to see anything.
    The guy lied his way to the top.
    Trump is no prized peach, just like Clinton wasn't. That's the problem with a 2 party system, not every voter or ideology is equally represented. We're Americans given more choices, neither Trump or Clinton would have has the support they got.

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