Intel Panel Abruptly Nixes Briefing on Alleged Russian Interference in US Election

[LaserSharkDFB]

Its amazing how russian hackers changed votes in ballot boxes without any connection to the internet. Mad skills.

It's also amazing how nobody was claiming that they did, yet uninformed people keep bringing up this exact same point. As Trump would say, SAD!

[Daerio]

What does Wal-Mart have to do with it? Russia hacking Wal-Mart would be bad too, but at least it wouldn't be an obvious attempt to sway our elections.

The DNC is a private organization which supposedly holds no more "sway" over our election than Wal-Mart, which is why they get to defend a rigged primary election by claiming the DNC has no legal obligation to hold a legitimate election.

So, DNC get fucked. They don't get to claim to be a private organization in one sentence and then in the next claim they need protection from the CIA and NSA because they're a government actor.

[Bodakane]

It's called the internet, are you familiar or just incapable of using Google? The latter is most likely the case.

Its not true.

[Reeve]

The DNC is a private organization which supposedly holds no more "sway" over our election than Wal-Mart, which is why they get to defend a rigged primary election by claiming the DNC has no legal obligation to hold a legitimate election.

The DNC is a private organization yes. Their primary process is their business. But they're also a political advocacy organization, one of the two biggest in the country, and suggesting that they hold no more "sway" over the election than Wal-Mart is just incredibly intellectually dishonest.

So, DNC get fucked. They don't get to claim to be a private organization in one sentence and then in the next claim they need protection from the CIA and NSA because they're a government actor.

They aren't claiming they're a government actor. They're saying that Russia hacked them to try to influence the election, and that the government has a duty to work to maintain the integrity of our election process from foreign actors. That's all. And probably true.

[Daerio]

They aren't claiming they're a government actor. They're saying that Russia hacked them to try to influence the election. That's all. And probably true.

Cool, and nobody cares.

[Reeve]

Cool, and nobody cares.

You have a very different definition of "nobody" than I do.

[Bodakane]

Cool, and nobody cares.

No, Trump supporters don't care because their lust for him is greater than caring about national security.

[crewskater]

Well, you sure seem to know what code pedophiles talk in. Really, you should just stop now. You're a mess.

This is a stupid fucking theory that has absolutely no facts behind it. Investigation by the proper authorities is fine, but until they find something (if they ever do) there is no justification to report on it, and any news organization that does so should probably be sued for slander. Just because it gives people like you boners to believe that Podesta is a pedophile doesn't mean it's news.

Again let me ask you, did you even bother to read any of the emails? What makes you so convinced that none of it could be true? If I'm wrong about what code pedophiles speak in, please correct me! Do you dismiss all cases of alleged pedophiles, or just when its someone from your affiliated party?

[schwarzkopf]

All they did was uncover what our shady politicians are up to.

One half of 'our' shitty politicians, the side they wanted to lose.

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Its amazing how russian hackers changed votes in ballot boxes without any connection to the internet. Mad skills.

They aren't being accused of vote rigging, they are being accused of election rigging.

HUGE difference.

[Kryos]

lol.
You are defending a foreign entity spying and using the data to get the person THEY want elected.
But we're partisan? Laughable.
Have you guys even stopped to think why Russia would want Trump and not Hillary?

I'm from the EU, I didn't vote for anybody in the US election. Bernie would have been my pick if I could have voted. Hillary is corrupt and Trump is a fraud and con man. Both not good for office.

Even if it where hackers from Russia - there are thousands of Russian and Chinese and European hackers that do hacking all day long. That doesn't prove anything except "we have been hacked, the data has been leaked to wikileaks"
That's the only fact we have. Everything else is speculation. Especially the "the GOVERNMENT of another country ORDERED these hacks". Where is ANY evidence for that? Don't be McCarthy 2.0.

Let's go back in time a little bit. Germany and other countries asked for EVIDENCE for Saddam's mobile biological and chemical weapon facilities and other weapons of mass destruction that give a reason to attack Iraq. The answer: That's classified, just believe our experts at the CIA. We were not convinced. No prove, no fact...
Then they showed some video and telephone call to the UN that was also no fact for anything and open to interpretations. Still no fact. Germany and many other countries where not convinced and told that to Rumsfeld this:

full speech: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CpuN-yM1sZU

Guess what was found in Iraq: NOTHING! The whole war was based on a lie!
So to quote Joschka Fischer from back then: I'm not convinced.

[SirPiken]

No, Trump supporters don't care because their lust for him is greater than caring about national security.

It isn't national security, it's DNC security.

[Noxx79]

It's called the internet, are you familiar or just incapable of using Google? The latter is most likely the case.

So everything google says is true? Wow, you are a sheep.

Let me spell it out for you. People are saying that Podesta was using code for pedophiles. Who said that? Answer: some anonymous shmo on Reddit. Do you believe this guy? Why?

Are you saying that everyone who talks about pizza in their personal emails should be investigated? I'm sure I can find some emails of yours that sound like pedo code. Do you think you should be investigated? Are you willing to produce all your emails so we can know you're not a pedo?

[LaserSharkDFB]

Again let me ask you, did you even bother to read any of the emails? What makes you so convinced that none of it could be true? If I'm wrong about what code pedophiles speak in, please correct me! Do you dismiss all cases of alleged pedophiles, or just when its someone from your affiliated party?

See, here's where you're confused: you think that just because it could possibly be true, even if there's no proof showing that it is, it should be reported on as if it were true. Hey, I heard Trump wears puppy-fur coats, and he skinned them himself. Is it true? Dunno, but let's get CNN on that right away.

The time to believe something is when there is evidence for it. If your standards of evidence are 'these personal and casual email sound weird to me, and someone told me they include pedophile code', then that's your problem for having shitty standards of evidence.

It isn't national security, it's DNC security.

If they had leaked all this stuff during the primary, you'd be right. They leaked it during the general, which makes it national.

[Daerio]

It isn't national security, it's DNC security.

This guy gets it.

DNC claims they are a private organization so they don't have to prove the primary was legitimate.

DNC claims they're a government organization when they get hacked and it's a matter of national security.

Lulz. That's not how this shit works.

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So everything google says is true? Wow, you are a sheep.

Let me spell it out for you. People are saying that Podesta was using code for pedophiles. Who said that? Answer: some anonymous shmo on Reddit. Do you believe this guy? Why?

Do you have a working alternate theory? I legitimately haven't heard one yet.

What do you believe they were talking about when using known pedophile code words? What national security discussion includes code words like "Do you think I'll do better playing dominos on cheese or pasta" ? Doesn't it seem a little convenient they are literally using the exact known pedophile code words?

[Bodakane]

I'm from the EU, I didn't vote for anybody in the US election. Bernie would have been my pick if I could have voted. Hillary is corrupt and Trump is a fraud and con man. Both not good for office.

Even if it where hackers from Russia - there are thousands of Russian and Chinese and European hackers that do hacking all day long. That doesn't prove anything except "we have been hacked, the data has been leaked to wikileaks"
That's the only fact we have. Everything else is speculation. Especially the "the GOVERNMENT of another country ORDERED these hacks". Where is ANY evidence for that? Don't be McCarthy 2.0.

Let's go back in time a little bit. Germany and other countries asked for EVIDENCE for Saddam's mobile biological and chemical weapon facilities and other weapons of mass destruction that give a reason to attack Iraq. The answer: That's classified, just believe our experts at the CIA. We were not convinced. No prove, no fact...
Then they showed some video and telephone call to the UN that was also no fact for anything and open to interpretations. Still no fact. Germany and many other countries where not convinced and told that to Rumsfeld this:

full speech: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CpuN-yM1sZU

Guess what was found in Iraq: NOTHING! The whole war was based on a lie!
So to quote Joschka Fischer from back then: I'm not convinced.

lol.

We can just pretend that the DNI has no facts. And the CIA didn't fuck up the Iraq stuff, Bush did. The CIA qualified their intelligence significantly and Bush and his team acted on it.

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It isn't national security, it's DNC security.

Riiiiiiiight. There's no national issues involved in the election for POTUS.....sigh.

[Noxx79]

Again let me ask you, did you even bother to read any of the emails? What makes you so convinced that none of it could be true? If I'm wrong about what code pedophiles speak in, please correct me! Do you dismiss all cases of alleged pedophiles, or just when its someone from your affiliated party?

Your post sure sounds like pedo code. I should probably report you to the authorities. After all, if they chase the nonsense that is the supposed code in the lodestar emails, you'll be free to use your unbroken real code.

If I email my coworker that I want sausage and black olives on my pizza, does that in any way mean that I want little Mediterranean boys? Or does it mean that I want sausage and black olives on my pizza.

You can make anything sound like pedo code. You'll have to come up with some better evidence.

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This guy gets it.

DNC claims they are a private organization so they don't have to prove the primary was legitimate.

DNC claims they're a government organization when they get hacked and it's a matter of national security.

Lulz. That's not how this shit works.

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Do you have a working alternate theory? I legitimately haven't heard one yet.

What do you believe they were talking about when using known pedophile code words? What national security discussion includes code words like "Do you think I'll do better playing dominos on cheese or pasta" ? Doesn't it seem a little convenient they are literally using the exact known pedophile code words?

Yes. He's was emailing about pizza. Why is hard to understand? Unless you're trying to cover up the actual pedo code too. I'll report you as well. Man we have a lot of pedos here

[Daerio]

Yes. He's was emailing about pizza. Why is hard to understand? Unless you're trying to cover up the actual pedo code too. I'll report you as well. Man we have a lot of pedos here

Amusing.

The FBI has been investigating child sex crimes for years and have their code words and what they mean publicly defined. It's almost like you don't get be the sole arbitrator on what's going on.

[Kryos]

lol.

We can just pretend that the DNI has no facts. And the CIA didn't fuck up the Iraq stuff, Bush did. The CIA qualified their intelligence significantly and Bush and his team acted on it.

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Riiiiiiiight. There's no national issues involved in the election for POTUS.....sigh.

On the other hand, a right winger hacker (there are thousands as there are left wingers) could have hacked this email account and leaked the stuff to wikileaks. The baseline is: WE DON'T KNOW! THERE IS NO FACT, JUST SPECULATIONS!

You WANT it to be Russia, you WANT to believe like some guys WANT TO BELIEVE in UFOs with Aliens. That's doesn't prove that they are real, no matter how many blurry photos and personal speculation you present. Sigh.

Btw: Why is it called "hacking the vote"? The voting machines in USA have no internet connection. While it's pretty easy to hack them with an USB stick (enough videos and text on the internet showing how) you can't hack them via internet. So if you wanted to HACK THE ELECTION you would need Russian secret agents to manipulate EVERY SINGLE VOTING MACHINE by hand.

What we have is that both, RNC and DNC were hacked because they are both idiots when it comes to cyber security and the hacker decided to only leak DNC material. That's facts we have. Why didn't they release the RNC files is SPECULATION. That's not hacking the election, that's hacking the DNC and showing their personal files.

If there wasn't anything in those email that show that the person running for president has some dirty secrets the whole hack wouldn't have any effect anyway. Maybe the DNC could pick a person that has no dirty secrets as their candidate the next time. Just a wild idea from me.

[Bodakane]

Amusing.

The FBI has been investigating child sex crimes for years and have their code words and what they mean publicly defined. It's almost like you don't get be the sole arbitrator on what's going on.

Please show for us the evidence "cheese pizza" is code for child porn. I ask because all I've seen is articles that reference the initial lie about pizzagate to being with.

[Noxx79]

Amusing.

The FBI has been investigating child sex crimes for years and have their code words and what they mean publicly defined. It's almost like you don't get be the sole arbitrator on what's going on.

Ok, so where are the code words and what do they mean. You just said you have no idea what the email meant. Why it's almost as if you're arguing from ignorance.
Keep defending your pedo code, it's amusing.