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For different reasons, I am loving both specs PVP wise, but I still think that RET has more resources and has better chance to play against harder or counter matchup while DKS are hard countered against some specs in the game due to mechanics reasons. I also like to PVE as DK but I dont like much PVE as ret, somehow I can outdps my RET 10 ilvls lower on my DK. I even have the ring legendary on the ret.
What are ur thoughts, have u played both specs end game yet? What do you prefer? What is the best one to try 2ks+ rating on season 2?
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2016-12-15, 07:07 PM #1The Patient
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[Paladin VS Frost DK] - Do you love both like me? Details inside.
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2016-12-15, 08:52 PM #2Pit Lord
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Ret ofc, same dmg much more def? Frost dks got nerfed recently the hype should be gone by now?
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2016-12-15, 09:58 PM #3Over 9000!
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Why not PvP on Ret and PvE on DK?
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2016-12-16, 04:45 AM #4Pit Lord
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Ret only good now, historically FDK was much better in rated PVP than Rets.
Personally for 2s, id go with FDK. (my main is Ret)
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2016-12-16, 07:48 AM #5Deleted
They're both overpowered cancer so there's that.
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2016-12-16, 12:50 PM #6Deleted+1 tenchar
Originally Posted by vodakhun
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2016-12-17, 01:40 AM #7Pit Lord
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So u are saying wars are even more OP cancer ? Same goes for feral, ww since all of those 3 specs and dk being 4th have much higher rep. In high rated 3s than Rets. I don't get why ppl keep saying rest are 'op cancer' when we are not OP to be honest. Yes we are in a good spot, best since wrath but by no means OP Originally Posted by Vodakhun
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2016-12-17, 11:03 AM #8Field Marshal
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Play ret, use your bubble and threeshot everyone no matter what they're using. xoxoxoxo
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2016-12-17, 02:35 PM #9DeletedThat's not true, ret was like the second best DPS spec after frost DK at the end of last season. Originally Posted by Snegovik
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2016-12-17, 04:23 PM #10Pit Lord
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When i checked a week ago 2.6k + US ladder using arena mate website, FDK were top, then WW + Ferals, then Arms, and only then Rets (melee speaking) Originally Posted by Vodakhun
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2016-12-17, 05:14 PM #11DeletedTop 5 dps specs were FDK, ret, WW, affliction and feral or something like that. I don't know why you would check specifically 2.6 and only US anyway. Also it's true that the other melees are op as well. Originally Posted by Snegovik
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2016-12-18, 03:18 AM #12Pit Lord
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I was looking for a "safe" glad cut off and while i was doing that, it gave me the class repr =). top specs over all ya, but i was looking at high end arena Originally Posted by Vodakhun
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2016-12-19, 04:55 AM #13Pandaren Monk
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a frost mage complaining about ret is pretty rich Originally Posted by Vodakhun
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2016-12-19, 11:02 AM #14DeletedWhy can't I complain about them? Mages are pretty garbage right now, and stuff like PHD is so overpowered and counters my comp as well. Rets don't even have to think when to use their bubble anymore, it's retarded. Also removing CC for free every 25s, wtf? Originally Posted by Demsi
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2016-12-19, 03:32 PM #15DeletedRet is retarded currently yes but... Originally Posted by Vodakhun
You seriously complain about ret paladin as a frost mage? This is a joke right, frost mages are pure annoyance for the majority of melee specs including warrior
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2016-12-19, 05:37 PM #16Pandaren Monk
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its ironic that you complain about rets when the spec that you main counters ret in every way possible. Originally Posted by Vodakhun
also, if you want to deal with bubbles just get a priest, mass dispell 2 good
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2016-12-19, 06:12 PM #17Field Marshal
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Originally Posted by Snegovik
Not sure where you're getting that. Currently the most represented DPS above 2300 are Rets and frost DK's. You absolutely are OP. You have unparalleled survivability, the best utility in PvP, offhealing capabilities, and insane burst damage. But by all means, believe that your class is balanced and that youre winning all of a sudden because your skill level shot through the roof overnight and not because your class is broken.
source: http://www.arenamate.net/?region=&re...lass_filter=12
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2016-12-20, 12:19 AM #18DeletedBubble itself is not the problem. What I find ridiculous is that rets don't even have to think when to use it, it further turns the spec onto brainless mongos. Originally Posted by Demsi
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2016-12-20, 01:27 AM #19Pandaren Monk
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You never had to, you usually used it near death, or if you were getting hard trained by you opponent Originally Posted by Vodakhun
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2016-12-20, 04:26 AM #20Pit Lord
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If you read my post carefully i was talking about last season and 2.6kcr+ which was a safe glad cut off. Personally when i talk about PvP balance, i tend to refer to glad lvl game play, because ppl at that cr actually know their classes and can play to their maximum potential. For example, wars are easy win lets say around 2kcr, but when you are facing a glad cr war team, those wars are scary foe to face. Originally Posted by squeekinator
Our survivability consists of 1 bubble thats all, rest can be dispelled and does gets dispelled or SS/Purged the moment you use it, but only by good players, hence i dont consider 2.2k bracket when talking about class balance. Ppl still go for a Ret kill most of the time @ higher bracket, its a good example that Rets are far from having "unparralleled survivability"
Utility is good, but i wont call it the "best" but i guess its just a personal opinion, but Rets on par with Dks have the worst mobility in pvp, so we need utility.
Healing? we go oom after 4 casts, and no1 will let Ret hard cast while they train Ret, cuz of kick=dead.
Sir, if you are saying Rets are OP, then logically you are saying Ferals/FDKs/WW/Arms are MORE OP since they had higher % representation end of last season above 2.6k on US servers.
Every1 has insane burst dmg atm in game, and Ret is not even the highest burst spec atm, Enh/WW/Arms/Demo and list goes on.
It is cute that you believe that i rerolled Ret over night, I played Ret for almost 10 years, and I am Glad on my Ret from the past when Ret was not as good as it is now. Every season i actually participate i hit 2.4k+ no matter how good or how bad Ret was over the past 10 years, so my skill level does not change with class changed.
and when you say "your class is borken" it is purely ur opinion, i can say the same about BM/Enh/Lock and it would be my opinion too, based on most recent Blizzcon finals, but you do not see me jumping ppl whom i dont know saying their skill level is very little and they got carried by their class when i face them @ 2.5kcr + arena.
if you filter to 2.5kcr (Glad range) out of nowhere, Rets becomes only 4th most represented DPS on US, while FDK, Shadow, Feral above Rets.
http://www.arenamate.net/?region=US&...lass_filter=12
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