Least Legendary dependant DPS spec/class ?

[Emerald Archer]

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Hunters are also fine without legendaries.

That's just straight up untrue. BiS hunter legendaries are insane. The ring, boots and belt all make a huge difference.

[Deavane]

Get your facts straight. People in Method and similar level guilds actually rerolled mains to fresh 110 alts of same class to have a better chance at getting BiS legendaries.. and here u say they didnt bench anyone because of it hahaha

This is accurate. People keep spreading wrong information for their benefit.

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They didn't bench anyone for it. Read the AMA, SOME of them chose to play alts who got luckier with legendaries. Not all.

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All top tanks run nearly all tanks. And warrior was the strongest choice at the start of EN because his partner tank was a guardian. So Warrior was 2nd best.

I'm sure those individuals were heavily encouraged to play their characters with the best legendaries. Most of those people care more about the world first then having every achievement on the same character.

[barackohmama]

"We haven't benched people due to legendaries, but we have had people switch to one of their alts, when they got good legendaries on them, and weren't lucky to get any on their mains. But that was mainly for Emerald Nigthmare, since by now most of the players in Method have good legendaries on their mains."

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This means they didn't bench anyone. Why is it so hard for people to understand? Of course they are competitive so they try to maximize their chance by rerolling. But They didn't have 20/20 optimal legendary/gear when they started EN. Gear is not everything even for hardcore raiders like Method. If it was everything they would just buy people into their guild which had BIS gear.

No guild will ever get perfect optimal gear, ever. Especially not now with the wf/tf/legendary system. All they can do is try to maximize their chances. And if you're in a top guild like Method that comes naturally for every raider. Only reason for a bench as I see it is bad attitude or lack of commitment, but unlucky, no...

[Azlo]

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That's just straight up untrue. BiS hunter legendaries are insane. The ring, boots and belt all make a huge difference.

People keep quoting this without actually thinking about what it means. They said they didn't bench anyone, but then people main swapped to the character with the best legendary. It's quite a clear implication that had the player decided to play one of their characters that had garbage legendaries, then they would have been strongly pushed towards playing the character with good legendaries.

Also, the hunter legendaries are good, but not game defining like Emerald Dreamcatcher, Instructor's Fourth Lesson, Marquee Bindings, AotHG etc. Ullr's might be on that level in Nighthold, but it isn't there at this moment.

[Deleted]

Windwalker monk, all of our legendaries suck and have wrong stats on them

The cloak is insane though. It gets overlooked a bit because when you read the effect it doesn't seem like a massive deal but in practice where you can use majority of the Karma and convert it to damage.. The cloak alone makes WW contender for top dps spec on boss like Guarm where you can get hit by trample or Helya where you can stand in the water. But yeah, in 7.1.5 they'll kill that legendary. Hoping the wrists will be good after they fix/buff SEF.

[Yhcti]

Unless you're planning on raiding in a top 10 world guild. It genuinely honestly does not matter.

You'll pick up your first legendary fairly fast because of the system they've put in. So don't worry about that.

play 10-30 hours a week on my DH since launch and haven't got a leggy yet

[Sylvaeres]

All of them, especially after 7.1.5. It matters absolutely so little, and you have literally no control. It's not worth considering, even. Just play the fucking game and get out of your own head. You're already on the path to being a bad player by spending too much time on this. A truly good guild isn't going to turn you away over legendaries. If they did then they aren't a good guild. Actual good guilds know loot isn't actually important because it just comes to you naturally if you're a good player in a good guild.

Get out of your own way and get off the forums. You'll only learn how to be a bad player here. Pick something you enjoy. That's by far the most important thing. You're going to be doing 500+ Mythic+ runs on this character (if you're serious about playing the way you said you intended) so you don't want to hate playing it. That's literally all that matters.

You are in absolute denial of reality. That is all

[Aggrophobic]

And it's worth noting, even Method, one of the top raiding guilds, stated they didn't sit anyone because of legendaries.

They did force players to switch to alts (or remake another of the same class) with better legedaries though, so you know... Pretty much the same thing.

[Sylvaeres]

"We haven't benched people due to legendaries, but we have had people switch to one of their alts, when they got good legendaries on them, and weren't lucky to get any on their mains. But that was mainly for Emerald Nigthmare, since by now most of the players in Method have good legendaries on their mains."

https://www.reddit.com/r/wow/comment...ne_of_the_top/

This means they didn't bench anyone. Why is it so hard for people to understand? Of course they are competitive so they try to maximize their chance by rerolling. But They didn't have 20/20 optimal legendary/gear when they started EN. Gear is not everything even for hardcore raiders like Method. If it was everything they would just buy people into their guild which had BIS gear.

No guild will ever get perfect optimal gear, ever. Especially not now with the wf/tf/legendary system. All they can do is try to maximize their chances. And if you're in a top guild like Method that comes naturally for every raider. Only reason for a bench as I see it is bad attitude or lack of commitment, but unlucky, no...

You're right, they didn't bench people. They made them play a different toons other than their main. It's spelled out in plain english

[barackohmama]

You're right, they didn't bench people. They made them play a different toons other than their main. It's spelled out in plain english

"made them play"? Where in the quote does it say they forced people to play different toons than their main? They didn't force anyone to switch to better geared alt, that was totally their own decision. Competitive top raiders don't need to be told what to do, they know how to improve themselves.

[Stardrift]

All classes.
What is wrong with you people and thinking legendaries have a huge effect?

[Raiju]

"made them play"? Where in the quote does it say they forced people to play different toons than their main? They didn't force anyone to switch to better geared alt, that was totally their own decision. Competitive top raiders don't need to be told what to do, they know how to improve themselves.

And let's have a thought game shall we?

What if they didn't - since you are suggesting this is optional.
@Greathoudini pre 7.1.5 certain legendaries offer over 10% dps boost. This classifies to most people as 'huge'

[Deleted]

Fury warrior will be in a comfy middle of the pack situation without legs, and good legs will jump you up just what you need to be good in any situation.
Arms legs are stupidly good, but you can still pull decent numbers without these.

Warlocks are in a weird place, but their legendaries aren't that gamechanging (except maybe demo shoulders which make it so much nicer to play).
Hpals can perform really well without legendaries and have very strong legs on top of it if you get lucky enough if you end up looking for a healer.

All classes.
What is wrong with you people and thinking legendaries have a huge effect?

Well an arms warrior with the good legs will never again have to worry about rage ever. This translates into even more dps because you can dump even more resources into it. There's a reason why a lot of strong legendaries are getting the nerfbat in 7.1.5

[dadev]

All classes.
What is wrong with you people and thinking legendaries have a huge effect?

Legendaries don't have effect only if you're a not so good player. If you're fine with being in 20-60 bracket then you shouldn't concern yourself with bis legendaries, because you could improve your dps by other more accessible means if you wanted to.
But if you're parsing high then legendary can be quite a boost.

[Manabomb]

And it's worth noting, even Method, one of the top raiding guilds, stated they didn't sit anyone because of legendaries.

That's also a group of raiders that 100% know the ability of one another. When applying for a raiding guild the only metric they have to go on is your trial performance and your progression (gear, artifact weapon, boss kills, ect). Having an orange won't get you into a guild, and being better at the game will definitely give you a higher chance, but don't sit here and act like having an orange that makes your numbers look big won't give you a better chance at being recruited. That's complete horse shit when you consider this community is "link achieve have orange+full exp clear" and has been since WotLK.

[Youn]

@dadev: This last statement is only partially true. You have two categories as a Marksman hunter. Those with snowshoes and those without. At this point, the top 25% of the parses are taken up with those who have snowshoes.

[MrExcelion]

Glacial Spike Frost Mage doesn't need legs really

[Moshots]

Shadow Priest or hunters. Both can do almost their full potential without Legendaries and the 2 BIS combined are nothing more than a 5% gain..

[Violetti]

And it's worth noting, even Method, one of the top raiding guilds, stated they didn't sit anyone because of legendaries.

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hmmmmmmmmm

[hulkgor]

And it's worth noting, even Method, one of the top raiding guilds, stated they didn't sit anyone because of legendaries.

They did different. Whichever main didn't get a bis legendary, leveled a new char for extra chances... don't be naive.