1 - No, the 17th is a Tuesday. They announced its coming out on the 17th, not the 19th. (you are looking at December 17th, which is indeed a Saturday, but I'm 99% sure they don't have a time machine, so they aren't going to release it on 17th or the 19th of December).
2 - You're right, they said they dont want Nighthold to be screwed by balancing, which is why most people assume it will be BEFORE Nighthold launches (ie the 10th) rather than at the same time (though because mythic, the point where balance matters, isn't until the 24th, I guess it could technically be the 17th). There is no way it will be after Nighthold, because of the holiday events starting on the 23rd.
As been said before 7.1.5 = micro holidays which start at 21th of January (AQ Day)
with that in mind every silly should see that 7.1.5 is released BEFORE the opening of NE so as 3rd is way to early it only leaves the 10th
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in what timezone do you live where the 17. January 2017 is not a Tuesday like for the rest of us?
Can't they just release the AK catch ups now.. why make us wait any longer
If you're going to lose your raid spot because of a patch then thats a you problem not a game problem, I'm tired of hearing about how things are going to be "unplayable" after the patch. We raid with an elemental shaman who, despite the class being terrible numbers wise, still manages to stay alive and do his job. 10/10M.
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The raid won't be open day 1, don't fret.
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Actually doing MoS, DHT, and CoS. Nice chat though friend, you know me so well.
Purely for selfish reasons, I hope it's Jan 03 because that's just about exactly when I'll finally hit AK25, so I'll be able to buy my alts AK20 right off the bat, and I'd like that as soon as possible.
Practically, I don't really care if it's a week or two later.
Did u read it at all? im not saying hunters are gonna be broken. Im saying that blizz r bringing the whole new gameplay for hunters. More bottoms, different strategy. Cant speak for all, but i need some time to get used to it and perform nicely in a new raid. Moreover guess i need new WA and so on. It all takes time. Just imagine your class gameplay, rotation and stats priority have been changed at the same day the new raid is out and u need to manage everything till ur RT.
There will be no patch. Wow is complete and Nighthold works without major patch.
I don't always hunt things, But when I do, It's because they're things & I'm a Bear.
I doubt it's going to be the 3rd. They only return from holiday break next week and will still be reviewing feedback for any changes needed to be made (as noted in the monk wow forums). It seems unnecessary to really squeeze in all that work on Monday when you can work on it that week. We'll likely get a Q/A next week, Ion will announce 10th release, use that particular week to hash out bugs, etc. prior to Nighthold on the 17th, then use THAT week to balance further in preparation for Mythic. It *could* be the 17th when they release 7.1.5, but they already stated in the past Q/A that patch would release before Nighthold. Things change though.
I play a warlock, trust me I know about relearning things.
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Two fold problem with those,
The people needing the carry are willing to do minimum work, no invis pots, no potions, no flasks, etc. No offense but I'm only there to carry you to a point, there is a minimum level you need to say "These guys are going to carry my key that i can't find a group for otherwise, I should put in the most effort to make sure I do my part."
The rewards just don't make sense, blizzard needs to up the rewards for certain dungeons. Its a clear problem that Maw and Cos are probably cleared 3 or 4 times as much as other places.
I don't know why you're all speculating, 7.1.5 releases on Jan 10th. This has been known by the community for some time now from inside sources.
I'd prefer it to be the 3rd, but I think it will be on the 10th.
Evidence:
The next Q&A chat will be after 7.1.5 and was stated to be "in the early weeks of January"
They have stated that 7.1.5 and the Nighthold are separate "releases" and in that same statement stated that they would not drop 7.1.5 "in the middle of" a raid tier, because that would be silly
They stated that aside from number balancing they were happy with 7.1.5 PTR
The last set of changes on the PTR were hotfixes, not scheduled patches, and contained nothing but number changes via auras
The logical date is the 10th. This is after the holiday period, but gives just enough time for players to adapt to the class, gear and legendary changes before the Nighthold.
It makes no sense at all to drop a raid opening on the same day you implement some pretyt hefty changes to classes. It doubles up and more the potential support problems, it means players going into raids with in some cases heavy class changes (such as Shadow Priest). It makes even less sense to drop a raid and then let people play it for a week then upend everything with class changes (and also invalidates the first week of raid data collection in regard of class balance)
The class and stat changes are why people are anxious to know, sothey have enough time to prepare and test for the Nighthold.
so we have actual maitnence on tuesday, but its only an hour, that's interesting at least,