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  1. #741
    Quote Originally Posted by Anni View Post
    That's highly individual what you feel after an abortion.
    Well in the case of a religious individual there could be extreme regret and grief and excommunication

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    Quote Originally Posted by HBpapa View Post
    Even then I'd still consider leaving her for getting herself raped in the first place.
    That is pretty ridiculous.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shadowferal View Post
    You're not married nor a parent, but for some strange idiotic reason want to subject others with your irrelevant opinions.
    The only reason you have such an opinion is likely the uncomfortable fact that you'd actually have to pay someone to marry you. (as you infer, "love" is a "convenience.")
    I've been married and am a parent, not that that's any of your business. And I've every right to state my opinions. I suppose I shouldn't be surprised at the personal attacks but if you're going to do it, at least be accurate. I wouldn't get married again even if I was paid. It's a bit ironic that you're accusing me of "subjecting others with my opinions" while you keep insisting that love and marriage are specific things that no one else can see differently.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Linkedblade View Post
    Well in the case of a religious individual there could be extreme regret and grief and excommunication
    And there could be a sense of relief. Going on about what could be isn't useful.

  5. #745
    Quote Originally Posted by Socialhealer View Post
    leave, it's a lose lose situation.
    yeah, if he's not ok with the kid then he should leave. its a shitty situation and i hope the rapist gets whats coming to him.
    No sense crying over spilt beer, unless you're drunk...

  6. #746
    Quote Originally Posted by Anni View Post
    And there could be a sense of relief. Going on about what could be isn't useful.
    Will the situation was the wife doesn't want to get one. In that case as her husband you should stand beside her.

  7. #747
    Quote Originally Posted by Linkedblade View Post
    If the rapist is convicted he would be a sex offender which aren't allowed to be near children.

    If he's not convicted then he's not a rapist by law.

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    Really a comedy movie? Sure it was real?
    I guess you never saw the "Ali G" show? He dresses up as a reporter and goes to real events. The event is real, in this case the "pro life rally," it is just that Ali G is not a reporter. He is talking to real people at real events though. The movies were based off the show.

    As for visitation rights, you have to remember that the child is the rapists. The court will only prohibit you from seeing your own children in extreme cases. There are plenty of people convicted of rape that still visit with their children.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Linkedblade View Post
    You would be a cuck if you watched your wife get raped and enjoyed it. That had nothing to do with a child. Again someone who thinks abortion is just some rest procedure with no repercussions.
    Of course it does. A Cuckold bird leaves their eggs in another bird's nest and the other bird raises it as their own. It's the very definition of what a cuckold is.

    You've been watching too much porn and getting the wrong information out of it. lel.
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  9. #749
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sun View Post
    If a wife is raped and gets pregnant from the rapist, is it okay for the husband to want her to get an abortion? Interestingly enough, a good friend of mine is in this exact situation. It's a difficult situation for all involved. She is very religious and is adamant about keeping the baby; however, he doesn't want to raise a child not his own, especially one who shares its genetics with a rapist. This has caused a huge rift in their relationship, and he's considering leaving. What would you do in this situation?
    Just stumbled across this thread, and wow....
    Firstly, what your friend does is his decision. You shouldn't try to influence it in any way, because he will probably have regrets no matter what he does, and may blame you for any advice you give. Just be his friend, offer support, but don't try to make life changing decisions on his behalf.
    Secondly, asking the people around here for their opinions on this subject is pointless. Given the nature of some of the responses, I'd extend that to their advice on any subject.

  10. #750
    Quote Originally Posted by bergmann620 View Post
    First off, one doesn't have to be religious to be pro-birth.

    Second, don't lie to your kid. 'Your child' is the child you're caring for, regardless of biology. That's the cornerstone of adoption. When they are old enough to understand, explain to them who their biological father was.

    Third, all of the negative things you speak of are things that the adults are bringing into the situation. If, as many here say, religion is irrational, so are these feelings and opinions regarding this potential child.
    I'm trying to relate to the points, made by the original post as much as I could. This subject is hardly something you can correlate to adoption. "ain't the same fuckin' ballpark, it ain't the same league, it ain't even the same fuckin' sport." - Jules

    I have a son of my own (at least that's what my girlfriend is propagating).

    One thing, is if the child was not my own. It is something I could overcome. But to keep the news of his tragic conception is something entirely different, and why this is a matter much more complex than "Oh, you should just love the child as your own" kind of deal.

    Just because it is a subject with implied emotions, doesn't mean you have to react irrational or hardheaded. In case of this husband and wife, of which we don't know the whole story and layout as detailed as I would like - I do still think it's immoral to complete an entire pregnancy, with the known fact, that the child was concieved through rape.

  11. #751
    Quote Originally Posted by Nixx View Post
    It's not a double standard. I'm demonstrating the meaninglessness of the standard, which is irreconcilable with basic biology to begin with and therefore rather uncompelling.
    To each their own, I suppose.

    What would be a justifiable means to determine when life begins, and ends, if not for the heartbeat? Or are we simply to go with an extreme liberal approach to the topic in saying women can simply choose to abort whenever within the pregnancy?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Linkedblade View Post
    Will the situation was the wife doesn't want to get one. In that case as her husband you should stand beside her.
    I'm not sure why he should simply ignore his desires in raising his own children, from his sperm, simply because she doesn't want to abort a pregnancy that resulted from a rape. There is, clearly, a huge different in their grasp of the situation.

    Leave. That's my vote.
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  12. #752
    Quote Originally Posted by Hopebringer View Post
    To each their own, I suppose.

    What would be a justifiable means to determine when life begins, and ends, if not for the heartbeat? Or are we simply to go with an extreme liberal approach to the topic in saying women can simply choose to abort whenever within the pregnancy?
    "We" don't say anything that matters unless "we" are a pregnant woman. No one but her decides if she remains pregnant or not. Unless "we" are going to lock up pregnant women until they give birth, that is.

  13. #753
    Quote Originally Posted by Tota View Post
    "We" don't say anything that matters unless "we" are a pregnant woman. No one but her decides if she remains pregnant or not. Unless "we" are going to lock up pregnant women until they give birth, that is.
    "We" is meant to be women. I would say it is silly to only rely on the opinion of women who are, or have been, pregnant.

    Where would it be reasonable to draw a line?
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  14. #754
    Quote Originally Posted by Hopebringer View Post
    "We" is meant to be women. I would say it is silly to only rely on the opinion of women who are, or have been, pregnant.

    Where would it be reasonable to draw a line?
    Where the pregnant woman feels comfortable doing so after discussing everything with her private doctor. If you don't wish to help her, don't. But you also don't get to force any "line" upon her.

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