I've been married and am a parent, not that that's any of your business. And I've every right to state my opinions. I suppose I shouldn't be surprised at the personal attacks but if you're going to do it, at least be accurate. I wouldn't get married again even if I was paid. It's a bit ironic that you're accusing me of "subjecting others with my opinions" while you keep insisting that love and marriage are specific things that no one else can see differently.
I guess you never saw the "Ali G" show? He dresses up as a reporter and goes to real events. The event is real, in this case the "pro life rally," it is just that Ali G is not a reporter. He is talking to real people at real events though. The movies were based off the show.
As for visitation rights, you have to remember that the child is the rapists. The court will only prohibit you from seeing your own children in extreme cases. There are plenty of people convicted of rape that still visit with their children.
"It's not what we don't know that gets us into trouble; it's what we know for sure that just ain't so." ~ Mark Twain
"The time you enjoy wasting is not wasted time" ~ Jesus of Nazareth
"把它放在我的屁股,爸爸" ~ Dalai Lama
Just stumbled across this thread, and wow....
Firstly, what your friend does is his decision. You shouldn't try to influence it in any way, because he will probably have regrets no matter what he does, and may blame you for any advice you give. Just be his friend, offer support, but don't try to make life changing decisions on his behalf.
Secondly, asking the people around here for their opinions on this subject is pointless. Given the nature of some of the responses, I'd extend that to their advice on any subject.
I'm trying to relate to the points, made by the original post as much as I could. This subject is hardly something you can correlate to adoption. "ain't the same fuckin' ballpark, it ain't the same league, it ain't even the same fuckin' sport." - Jules
I have a son of my own (at least that's what my girlfriend is propagating).
One thing, is if the child was not my own. It is something I could overcome. But to keep the news of his tragic conception is something entirely different, and why this is a matter much more complex than "Oh, you should just love the child as your own" kind of deal.
Just because it is a subject with implied emotions, doesn't mean you have to react irrational or hardheaded. In case of this husband and wife, of which we don't know the whole story and layout as detailed as I would like - I do still think it's immoral to complete an entire pregnancy, with the known fact, that the child was concieved through rape.
To each their own, I suppose.
What would be a justifiable means to determine when life begins, and ends, if not for the heartbeat? Or are we simply to go with an extreme liberal approach to the topic in saying women can simply choose to abort whenever within the pregnancy?
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I'm not sure why he should simply ignore his desires in raising his own children, from his sperm, simply because she doesn't want to abort a pregnancy that resulted from a rape. There is, clearly, a huge different in their grasp of the situation.
Leave. That's my vote.
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