Fury: No ring - Massacre even worth? (heroic scenario)

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Sup guys, I got a question which bothers me now for a few days. My super-competitive days are long gone, but a little spirit of it is still in me.

Keep in mind this belongs to (atm) an heroic scenario with an exception for a few bosses where Massacre is a no-brainer (Guarm f.e.)

As I said, I do not spend too much time anymore getting the best possible information or sims anymore (maybe thats my problem :> )
I do use askmrrobots sim (because i am lazy and it is super convenient). Every time I sim my toon (ursoc HC default rotation) I only get a minor increase in DPS and at one time I got less DPS with Massacre as talent of choice.
Now with my gear atm I get an increase of around 2k dps. Wat?

This can't be right. Yeah I should get it, higher itemlevel overall means a shorter execute phase especially on Ursoc, but I don't.

Should i stick with Carnage for Heroic Content (Emerald/Trial)?

warcaftlogs: https://www.warcraftlogs.com/ranking...r/11064325/10/
Keep in mind the latest are from December and my gear has somewhat improved by now (melandrus ring for example)
gear as of today: http://www.askmrrobot.com/wow/gear/eu/rexxar/colki

Regarding my logs: Yeah i know i do sometimes fuck my rotation up, thats not my point

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Without massacre. Juggernaut is useless. Withour Juggernaut stacks your execute phase is hopeless. Without execute phase warrior is hopeless.

So go arms or Massacre unless its Odyn which without ring Massacre is ehhhh there.

On phone so explained it jokingly but with full meaning.

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Well, sim with massacre nets execute into 14,2% of overall damage, sim without massacre is 13,8% of overall.
Thanks for the suggestion to play Arms though, I do switch between the specs reguarly currently not interested because my fury gear is far better (and no gloves/ring).

Again, should I stick with Carnage on "easier" content, because of shorter execute phases? This is not a rhetoric question

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Well, sim with massacre nets execute into 14,2% of overall damage, sim without massacre is 13,8% of overall.
Thanks for the suggestion to play Arms though, I do switch between the specs reguarly currently not interested because my fury gear is far better (and no gloves/ring).

Again, should I stick with Carnage on "easier" content, because of shorter execute phases? This is not a rhetoric question

No. /10chars

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Well, sim with massacre nets execute into 14,2% of overall damage, sim without massacre is 13,8% of overall.
Thanks for the suggestion to play Arms though, I do switch between the specs reguarly currently not interested because my fury gear is far better (and no gloves/ring).

Again, should I stick with Carnage on "easier" content, because of shorter execute phases? This is not a rhetoric question

If your execute phase is at least 30 sec or longer, massacre>carnage. You can keep this as a rule of thumb.(Keep in mind that in heavy cleave fights carnage can still be better, not existent in EN but maybe NH will give us such)

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Thansk for the replies, I'll stick to massacre now in raids. Fingers crossed for the ring