Experts worried after Hundreds of neo-Nazis have 'gone underground' in Germany

[primalmatter]

And two wrongs don't make a right.

Right and wrong are perspectives.

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And we all can blame the left and the people welcoming refugees

how does it feel the fuck up Europe Thank you for letting my wish of getting children go to waste for messing up Europe thank you so much

[Evil Midnight Bomber]

To be fair they are going to be mentioned as they are the main driving force of the reforming of the nazi party.

Right-Wing Nationalism has been on the rise in Germany for longer than that. The refugees added to that, no doubt...but the situation itself predates them.

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Right and wrong are perspectives.

Pretty sure the most common perspective regarding Nazism is that it is "wrong".

[Kaleredar]

Right and wrong are perspectives.

When you start agreeing with nazis, it's probably time to re-assess your judgement of right and wrong.

[primalmatter]

Right-Wing Nationalism has been on the rise in Germany for longer than that. The refugees added to that, no doubt...but the situation itself predates them.

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Pretty sure the most common perspective regarding Nazism is that it is "wrong".

Only if you call it that from the groups actions in the past. If you explain the ideology to people under a new name you find it becomes far more attractive. I doubt few more then a small fringe minority of those being called nazis in this article consider themselves them.

[Tennis]

Right and wrong are perspectives.

Hate crimes are clearly wrong and evil. No perspective about it. It's a cold, hard fact.

[primalmatter]

Hate crimes are clearly wrong and evil. No perspective about it. It's a cold, hard fact.

Hate crimes are idiotic. Either something is a crime or it isn't. Stabbing someone shouldn't have different penalties based on who you stabbed.

[Evil Midnight Bomber]

Only if you call it that from the groups actions in the past. If you explain the ideology to people under a new name you find it becomes far more attractive. I doubt few more then a small fringe minority of those being called nazis in this article consider themselves them.

A rose by any other name would smell as sweet. Nazism is still nazism no matter what you call it.

[PC2]

Letting in millions of migrants in just a few years was insane. This type of response is common sense.

[Ravenblade]

can somebody explain to me why right wing extreme nazicism is on the rise currently?
one might wonders if the politicians do something that would make normal people go all Hitler and stuff, but so far every single politician of a western country has acted perfectly reasonable with only their own population, the people that voted for them, in consideration to their deeds.

It really is worrying. Let's hope with all the nazis gone underground the lefties are not going to destroy civil property again

Well, one could argue that it goes back to the times when someone got the idea to remove the wall between East and West Germany. Actually it was always there and remained largely unchecked because it wasn't considered a threat and because politicians believed that bringing economic boom will change people. It didn't. Also going underground doesn't mean they are not posing any danger anymore, if history is a good teacher then people following a radical ideology going underground usually means re-emergence as a form of urban terrorism (see Red Army Faction). Vandalism would be the least of your problems.

[primalmatter]

A rose by any other name would smell as sweet. Nazism is still nazism no matter what you call it.

You don't actually know anything about national socialism do you? It honestly has a pretty big appeal and the people.

Combine that with the fact racist and nazi have lost all their punch and nearly all their meaning and you have a situation the german government seems determined to pour oil over.

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I expect even more right wing terrorism in germany.

I see it as a real threat, as it even gets hyped by the populists. The people from the AFD are the arsonists that send the right wing fanatics to burn down refugee camps.

Right wing idiots arent any different than islamists. They hate other religions, and some of them even would kill for their idea.

[primalmatter]

Well, one could argue that it goes back to the times when someone got the idea to remove the wall between East and West Germany. Actually it was always there and remained largely unchecked because it wasn't considered a threat and because politicians believed that bringing economic boom will change people. It didn't. Also going underground doesn't mean they are not posing any danger anymore, if history is a good teacher then people following a radical ideology going underground usually means re-emergence as a form of urban terrorism (see Red Army Faction). Vandalism would be the least of your problems.

You realize you could of just used nazis in your example right? This is pretty much as close to history repeating itself as you can get...

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Letting in millions of migrants is a crime

[Butler to Baby Sloths]

Pretty much this to be honest. If you read the article it says that when people feel their government is unable to protect them, they're more likely to be right wing radicals. And the truth is that European governments can't really protect their citizens due to the Wilkommenskultur that took place in Germany. Once the terrorists are in Europe, they can travel from one side of the continent to the other in hours, completely unhindered.

That's the problem with the Freedom of Movement - It's brilliant on the face of it but in reality it just doesn't hold up. Yet anyone who says this is apparently a racist lunatic. And why I personally voted to leave the EU in our referendum here in the UK.

The second they made landfall in Italy or Greece they are able to move inside of Europe. That's not because Germany said they could come here. That has been the case since the 1980s.

The UK isn't in Schengen, and you have to show a passport at immigration and ports of entry such as ferry terminals, Eurostar and airports. You can't simply walk into the UK unannounced.

[Tennis]

Letting in millions of migrants is a crime

If it was. Chancellor Merkel would be in prison. Please don't spread lies.

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Letting in millions of migrants is a crime

Letting the alt right post on a gamer forum is a crime.

[Sentynel]

Experts only care about "neo nazis" but not about Islamists.

lol, fucking ridiculous.

[primalmatter]

If it was. Chancellor Merkel would be in prison. Please don't spread lies.

You realize by that logic hitler did nothing wrong right...?

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You realize by that logic hitler did nothing wrong right...?

I somehow have the impression you really believe that.