It's official, President Trump takes over.

[Zoldor]

And it was fucking retarded when they did it.

So either:


1. Not do it
2. Accept being a hypocrite

Welcome to politics.

[Skroe]

And the cycle continues ad infinum as the losers will always have this attitude.

Really? Because the losers in 2008 are 2016's winners. This is something I've been saying for months now... predating election night.

There is no such thing as permanent victories in politics. Period. Who knows of the "Silent Majority", or remembers the New Democrats and the Republican Contract with America? Or Karl Rove's "Big Tent Party".

The Trumpkins are on top of the world today. Good for them. And just like their predecessors, we can start to count the days until the artificial coalition fractures. And then the pendulum swings the other way.

This is fine. This is natural. This is actually really good for the country... this back and forth. The problem is, this time, Donald Trump is an extremist who has taken many deeply un-American stands. .

But any Trump supporter who thinks they've won some kind of final victory here... hahaha.... boy... you must be knew at this. Obama 2008 supporters... raise your hands. Sweet. So... Obamcare... hows the outlook on that? See my point?

[Jotaux]

sigh, continue to be obtuse. I've put no value anywhere. I've merely pointed out that this isn't sexism, racism, or race baiting. It is merely statistical analysis. People find diversity important in a diverse country. I've not once said that the color of anyones skin is important, I've merely said this is the stat, if you don't like the stat and find it to be something else that is your interpretation of the stat.

Why do you place so much value in diversity of sex, race etc? Does the colour of your skin affect what you think?

[Wolfheart9]

Then no one can ever complain again. Because fuck being honest.

How is it 'fuck being honest'?

I can, honestly, say that I am tired of members of the Right starting conversations with 'WE WON GET OVER IT!' when no one is even talking about the situation, while I personally did not go around saying that when Obama won. I thought the hanging black guy protests and burning of a church and the birther crap was beyond stupid and wrong, just like I think people destroying property over this is wrong, but it is not at all hypocritical of me to want it to stop. That is honesty.

[Cosmic Janitor]

If everyone thinks like trump,everyone will only buy his own goods and hire his own people.

Which means, america needs to become self sufficient.

I think i will miss american movies and computer games if trumps vision comes true.

I doubt he is dumb enough to not export american wares.. that is probably the only thing certain. It's not like they weren't made for american adiences either, that they sell well here is just a bonus really.

[Wyrt]

Why do you place so much value in diversity of sex, race etc? Does the colour of your skin affect what you think?

It can affect the experiences you've had in your life which would then affect the way you think.

[Deleted]

It could have been the Russians but it could have been the west.

"The west" had no air units in aleppo. You know, one of the main reasons the americans did not open a no-flight zone was because russia controled them, and that enforcing that zone would mean a war with russia.

[Medusa Cascade]

Thanks for the political insight anime porn avatar guy.

Thanks for your post person I don't even care to remember

[Crissi]

I think you are starting to lose it, Skroe.

I think I get his point. Swings prevent the country from going to far in one direction long term. Conservatives keep the progressives form going too far too fast, while the progressives keep us from going backwards.

So in that vein, I highly doubt 4 or 8 years of Trump will see us go permanantly backwards. It's likely just a check on things.

Maybe Im just being an optimist here

[Pratt]

They could choose not to have conniption fits. You know. Like the Republicans should have done when Obama won.

You mean just like they did. Trump himself called Obama's election a "total sham and a travesty... We are not a democracy!" on twitter. You may have also forgotten the burning Obama effigies. Or the ones hung from nooses. Maybe also forgot the string of violent acts against people of color. Oh, also a black church was torched. And people waving signs depicting Obama as a naked tribesman, telling him to go back to Africa, the whole 9 yards. Perhaps you didn't read the Fox News comments around that time. Republicans flipped out but it's just been long enough to allow people to re-write history to their liking. And that's not even getting into the difference in motivations.

Edit - Misread post. Bit of misplaced rage here. My bad.

[Cyraxe]

Can't wait for all the celebs that said they were going to leave the country up and finally leave.

[Darkeon]

Mods better come rescue Skroe soon. He is starting to drift away :P

[Wolfheart9]

You mean just like they did. Trump himself called Obama's election a "total sham and a travesty... We are not a democracy!" on twitter. You may have also forgotten the burning Obama effigies. Or the ones hung from nooses. Maybe also forgot the string of violent acts against people of color. Oh, also a black church was torched. And people waving signs depicting Obama as a naked tribesman, telling him to go back to Africa, the whole 9 yards. Perhaps you didn't read the Fox News comments around that time. Republicans flipped out but it's just been long enough to allow people to re-write history to their liking. And that's not even getting into the difference in motivations.

Not 100% sure but I think his point is that the Repubs DID do that, and they shouldn't have, just like the Dems shouldn't be doing this either.

[alexw]

Trump gonna fuck radical Islamism to death. And also proclaimed to support Christianity. In yo face PC world. Western world is going back to it's roots and multi culti can fuck off.

Got to love the regressive mindset.

You heard it folks, Trumps going to fuck them all to death!

Meanwhile most of us don't base our political beliefs on south park, only a simpleton would do that.....

[CostinR]

The median income of Trump voters was 72,000 dollars a year.

You mean the Household income. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United...r_demographics

It's a rather different discussion between 1-2 individuals and a household. I'd expect a lot of Trump voters to have bigger families, which means they've got far more to worry about then just their own personal income. it's also not like Hillary did so well with low income voters.

Those low income voters by the way are overwhelmingly minorities. How many poor people voted for Hillary because they loved her as opposed to voting against Trump because they were afraid of him?

In fact black voters likely voted for Clinton far more for Obama's legacy then anything else because for them Obama meant something, not policy, not economic but symbolic. It meant that they too could stand in the highest office of power and that is a very powerful thing.

Also Trump voters in rural America? Bernie voters, Obama voters. Everyone competes for the same voters in different way.

Trump was their brick through the window. This was a revolution.

[Skroe]

It's not just his party however. It was America as a whole as a nation where anger won out over rational thought. It's easy to be rational when you've got a cozy job, a home, a family and have a stable income. It's much, much harder to be rational when you've lost everything and you've got nothing left.

America was not going to attend to a coronation of the symbol of everything that's screwed them over. It's pitty because you'd think Skroe would be intelligent and well educated enough to UNDERSTAND THIS.

To understand people are angry, they bitter, they are irrational and they are not going to accept business as usual.

Reminder: 3 Million More Americans voted for Hillary Clinton than Donald Trump.

Reminder: Donald Trump is president only because he won under the rules of the competition. But he has no popular mandate to speak of. With a 35% approval rating, he's an unpopular populist.

But keep fawning for a failure in the making. It won't bite you in the ass or anything.

Besides, what do you know of the complexities of America? It's another country to you! The first rule of Americans, is that we collectively have a very short memory. Obama won big, among many Americans who spat his name in 2016. Guess what: we're gonna see the sequel to that with Donald Trump. It won't be the first time and it won't be the last. Americans will, frankly, quite cynically, forget why the supported Trump (or Obama), and just vote against the status quo.

It's the story of politics in the post-Watergate era. The fact that the White House, aside from George H.W. Bush, has been alternating... the fact that midterm elections are now routinely punishing for sitting President's parties, all reflect the fickleness of Americans.

Trump is the third "change" candidate out of the last four, and the second consecutive. That is also, not a coincidence. Americans have wanted change alright... since the days of OJ Simpson's most notable roles being football and Naked Gun.

[Dextroden]

Approving and Acknowledging reality are vastly different propositions.

I have not been creating chaos, or breaking stuff on the streets, nor have I gone out of my way to call Trump names every post. But I am not "The Left". Or "The Democrats" I am just one person. Which no one really listens to because I have no power to do anything besides post on this forum (and others) and vote.

As noted by how often I get called Trumpkin or, as seen above right, for the reason I'm fucking tired of this shit. Only call out the hypocrisy on the other side.

I'm watching people sword fight with the planks in their eyes, claiming their own doesn't exist. I want to see proof that the Democrats and people who back their causes are superior. Because that has been their theme song since I could start voting. Especially in this amazing election.

[Deleted]

Can't wait for all the celebs that said they were going to leave the country up and finally leave.

If everyone who opposes trump would leave america would become quite empty. Well, and lose all its scientists, artists, liberal economists..

It should be in your intereste that people stay in your country, no matter if its ruled by a racist bigot.

[Fadeslol]

"The west" had no air units in aleppo. You know, one of the main reasons the americans did not open a no-flight zone was because russia controled them, and that enforcing that zone would mean a war with russia.

U didn't need to have air units in aleppo to do shit. Russia doesn't control America. A No-Fly Zone will be war with Russia and Syria. News flash, i'm not fighting Russia unless they fuck with America or an ally by invading.

[Nihilanth]

Can't wait for all the celebs that said they were going to leave the country up and finally leave.

Nah, they got cold feet. Piers Morgan said it best:

"And the award for the worst election loser goes to . . . every deluded millionaire celebrity who can't deal with the fact that America couldn't care less what they think".