More hunter buffs inc next reset

[ydraw]

Woah Blizz, don't go crazy with those buffs to BM. I mean the spec is dead last by a fair margin, 2-3% is the safe thing to do, after all, it would be disaster if BM ever got near the middle of the pack.

[Deleted]

dont really know what to include in those bm buffs but:

from latest sims to my char (i have 2 set so no frenzy but stomp):
1) All kill command dmg = 36.2%
2) All dire beast dmg = 12.9%
3) Main pet dmg = 5% claw / 5% melee
4) Hati dmg = 5.3% melee
This could total to: 65.2%

Now tbh i dont know which things will be affected... but we can safely assume that 6.5% buff would be the max dps increase

[Deleted]

Woah Blizz, don't go crazy with those buffs to BM. I mean the spec is dead last by a fair margin, 2-3% is the safe thing to do, after all, it would be disaster if BM ever got near the middle of the pack.

dead last on ST sims... There are 2 single target encounters in NH the others have heavy aoe/cleave situations.

[Deleted]

Pretty damn nice..

I feel BM is very strong for mythic + now with traps.. Bl.. BR.. great aoe and very strong ST burst for bosses...

Got the last 3 bosses in NH left to do.. but other then bridge boss (practically ST fight) all fights have a good amount of adds to aoe/cleave

[Beoren]

How does the Arcane shot focus buff changes the rotation? how much of a dps buff is it?

[Maxie]

I doubt it changes much - most of our focus gain is from passive regen anyway. I guess this could mean that I MIGHT not run into as many issues with executing the icy veins opener with volley and low haste% but other than that it's a minimal change.

[ydraw]

dead last on ST sims... There are 2 single target encounters in NH the others have heavy aoe/cleave situations.

We are not doing particularly well in those either. Bm isn't higher than middle of the pack on any fight in Nighthold, and is in the bottom 3 on 4 of them.

Would it really be too much to ask to give us a significant single target buff, such as reducing the focus cost of Cobra shot?

[Ozzayel]

Still not enough, and the SW buff is pointless.
The reason SW isn't very good anymore is because of focus not SW's damage.

[Deleted]

We are not doing particularly well in those either. Bm isn't higher than middle of the pack on any fight in Nighthold, and is in the bottom 3 on 4 of them.

Would it really be too much to ask to give us a significant single target buff, such as reducing the focus cost of Cobra shot?

I dunno persnally I feel like bm should never be a top5 specc due to its low/nonexistent movement restrictions. (yes, I play a hunter and I think if bm would ever be a top5 simDPS contender then we'd have a problem)

[Gilthandir]

Even a 2.5% buff to BM should put it on par with Marksmanship from the numbers I have seen, not including the MM changes in these notes which I'm not 100% sure is a buff at all. Being the considerably easier spec along with having Elisande and Phase 3 Gul'dan literally cancer for MM I think is what will finally bump BM ahead a notch.

[Deleted]

MMbuff should be around 4% because u can use 4xAS+MS+3xAiS -Rota now over 2x AS+MS+AS+Wait+2xAiS, thanks to additional Fokus while 4-5xAS+MS+3xAiS was a dmgloss.

[Kayagurcu]

Combat Experience (Pet Passive) now increases the damage of primary pets by 60% (up from 50%).

Considering only main pet damage will get 10% damage buff; abilities below will get buffed

1) Main pet Kill Command
2) Main pet basic attack
3) Main pet auto-attack
4) Main pet Titan's Thunder dmg output
5) Dire Frenzy dmg output
6) Main pet beast-cleave

As far as we know Hati mimics main pet and its Kill Command + Beast Cleave damage are being calculated according to Main Pets KC + BC dmg. Will Hati's KC+BC also getting buffed 10% ?

[satimy]

Thank god the new artifact traits make vulnerable even more important, I was worried blizzard was actually listening

[Einsz]

Even a 2.5% buff to BM should put it on par with Marksmanship from the numbers I have seen, not including the MM changes in these notes which I'm not 100% sure is a buff at all. Being the considerably easier spec along with having Elisande and Phase 3 Gul'dan literally cancer for MM I think is what will finally bump BM ahead a notch.

You need legendaries in order for BM to perform though, MM is not really reliable on them

[Threndsa]

We are not doing particularly well in those either. Bm isn't higher than middle of the pack on any fight in Nighthold, and is in the bottom 3 on 4 of them.

Would it really be too much to ask to give us a significant single target buff, such as reducing the focus cost of Cobra shot?

Ask and ye shall receive. New BM artifact talent is reducing cobra shot focus by 2 per point. will go down to 32 base (at 4/4) and they have ranks for up to 8 for 16 focus off.

[ydraw]

Ask and ye shall receive. New BM artifact talent is reducing cobra shot focus by 2 per point. will go down to 32 base (at 4/4) and they have ranks for up to 8 for 16 focus off.

Sounds great, can't wait for the next tier then.

[Sarevokcz]

Ask and ye shall receive. New BM artifact talent is reducing cobra shot focus by 2 per point. will go down to 32 base (at 4/4) and they have ranks for up to 8 for 16 focus off.

why are there 8 ranks tho, are we getting 4th relic slot? or will we be able to put 5/5 into non goldens?

[Threndsa]

why are there 8 ranks tho, are we getting 4th relic slot? or will we be able to put 5/5 into non goldens?

AFAIK non goldens were originally going to get an additional rank so 4/4. Either we are getting a new relic slot, actually getting 5/5 or maybe each trait will have a single relic with +2 instead of the new dual rank +1/+1s?

[Deleted]

why are there 8 ranks tho, are we getting 4th relic slot? or will we be able to put 5/5 into non goldens?

relics get 2 traits

[Sabinn]

Combat Experience (Pet Passive) now increases the damage of primary pets by 60% (up from 50%).

Considering only main pet damage will get 10% damage buff; abilities below will get buffed

1) Main pet Kill Command
2) Main pet basic attack
3) Main pet auto-attack
4) Main pet Titan's Thunder dmg output
5) Dire Frenzy dmg output
6) Main pet beast-cleave

As far as we know Hati mimics main pet and its Kill Command + Beast Cleave damage are being calculated according to Main Pets KC + BC dmg. Will Hati's KC+BC also getting buffed 10% ?

Yes. In fact logs will count those 2 as main pet damage. Main pet damage can easily go up to 60% with dire frenzy , meaning this buff should be around 6% and not 2% as some people as saying.