Trump wants to end Arts and Public Broadcasting

[Aehl]

I have every right to petition the government to fund things.

It isnt the government that funds them.

THE TAXPAYERS DO. Remember?

[Deleted]

It's still a huge waste. It not only makes them view us less favorably and therefore less cooperative, but it's dumping money down a hole that could have otherwise been used to do business with US companies and generate actual value. Instead, you want to pitch it down a monetary black hole in some sort of ill-conceived public works project.

It's not just Mexico that wont view you favorably.

[Moshots]

No actual Afghans attacked you on 9/11.
No Iraqis either.


http://edition.cnn.com/2013/07/27/us...rs-fast-facts/
Hijackers by Airplane:
American Airlines Flight 11
Mohamed Atta - Egypt, tactical leader of 9/11 plot and pilot
Abdul Aziz al Omari - Saudi Arabia
Wail al Shehri - Saudi Arabia
Waleed al Shehri - Saudi Arabia
Satam al Suqami - Saudi Arabia
United Airlines Flight 175
Fayez Banihammad - United Arab Emirates
Ahmed al Ghamdi - Saudi Arabia
Hamza al Ghamdi - Saudi Arabia
Marwan al Shehhi - United Arab Emirates, pilot
Mohand al Shehri - Saudi Arabia
American Airlines Flight 77
Hani Hanjour - Saudi Arabia, pilot
Nawaf al Hazmi - Saudi Arabia
Salem al Hazmi - Saudi Arabia
Khalid al Mihdhar - Saudi Arabia
Majed Moqed - Saudi Arabia
United Airlines Flight 93
Saeed al Ghamdi - Saudi Arabia
Ahmad al Haznawi - Saudi Arabia
Ziad Jarrah - Lebanon, pilot
Ahmed al Nami - Saudi Arabia

You fucked up two countries who had little to nothing to do with it, ensuring that both of these countries would continue hating you or hate you even more. Iraqi even became so fractured and destabilized that it allowed the formation of ISIS.
So hey, maybe chill with the warmaking cus so far you've been really bad at fucking up the right people.

Al-queda was being housed by Afghanistan and Osama Bin Laden you know the guy who planned the whole thing...... was sitting in Afganistan like what up i run this country. and the goverment was letting him chill there... Harboring terrorists is just as bad as being the guy flying the plane.

[NED funded]

1. Laffer Curve. There is a maximum amount of money you can get via taxation.
2. Even if you taxed the "rich" at 100%, the government would still be running a deficit.

Periods of economic prosperity in the U.S. are typically ushered in by either disruptive technology or significant tax cuts.


Death by a thousand cuts. It's easy to look at the big things (military and entitlements), but cutting the small things helps too.

You also have to look at the philosophical level: what should government be doing? The group which currently controls government tends to prefer it be less involved in some areas. There's nothing saying the government has to contribute to art, and it could be argued that it isn't allowed to either based on the federal government's enumerated powers.

In addition, what role should the military have? It's currently structured and funded to be able to support wars in two theaters simultaneously - a capability which we've been using. If the U.S. were to scale back its military significantly, other countries may grow theirs and flex their muscle. That could mean Russia annexing more countries without fear of retaliation, or Iranian or North Korean provocation; the Chinese and Russians surely wouldn't care too much what those countries do.

The "money we owe ourselves" argument is pretty funny. Eventually that money comes due and the people want to get paid. What do you do then? Issue more debt, right? That just digs the whole deeper. The end result is defaulting on the debt. If the U.S. defaulted on its debt, it would be a world-wide economic crisis. And guess what? Defaulting means the money we owe ourselves will never be paid.

At the current rate, interest on the national debt is set to displace all discretionary spending (which includes the military). That is not healthy nor sustainable. Your argument for perpetual deficits is about small perpetual deficits, not large ones like we currently have.

Im not sure the Laffer curve holds your argument. The laffer curve essentially says tax too high and the side effects reduce revenue, tax too low and you are unnecesarily running a deficit. So there is a point in the middle. What the dude is saying is that we are unnecesarily granting tax breaks to wealthy people. A good counterargument would be to prove we are overtaxing.

[Wells]

Because there should be no public broadcasting and the arts should not be taxpayer funded. It's just wrong.

This is hilariously circular.

[Torto]

This is hilariously circular.

And this is frustratingly vague

[Wells]

A circular argument is a fallacious argument in which the conclusion is used as a premise to justify the conclusion.

1. The NEA (either one apparently) is bad.
2. If it were useful it wouldn't need public funding.
3. This applies only to the NEA (either one) because

GOTO 1

[Masark]

Al-queda was being housed by Afghanistan and Osama Bin Laden you know the guy who planned the whole thing...... was sitting in Afganistan like what up i run this country. and the goverment was letting him chill there... Harboring terrorists is just as bad as being the guy flying the plane.

And would you like to explain how that is related to Iraq?

[Moshots]

And would you like to explain how that is related to Iraq?

Iraq was Bush wanting oil and butthurt cause his daddy screwed up the first gulf war. Saddam should have been removed from power in 1991... and Iraq war 2.0 should have never happened. Bush just figured while were already over in the middle east so why the hell not... Lets make up an excuse about WMD's that don't exist and go for it.

Even as Much as I think Hillary should be in jail for her crimes Bush Should be in jail for war crimes.

[Daethz]

In other words, hes banning degrees that are useless, don't lead to jobs or productive lives and only exist to convert people to the extreme fringes of liberalism ex-socialism.

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Sadly public broadcasting has turned into a government-funded liberal political structure.

[ImpTaimer]

Nice shitty clickbait title, OP. Classy. Can't get enough of shitty clickbait titles ending up being several pages long and barely discussing the subject matter earnestly.

The proposed federal funding changes has no direct impact on public arts and broadcasting. In the past these entities would simply propose to their state government for aid to prove they deserved it, rather than a blanket approval that might be given consequence after-the-fact. It is up to the state budget to maintain these things regardless. If you don't like it, yell at your governor and legislators.

Things like PBS falling through because public donations are falling through / economy has not recovered.

Mr. Rogers is already rolling in his grave over all the pathetic regression of the education system and radical identity politics. Common Core is the most laughably regressive standard ever pushed, after No Child Left Behind Act. Civics still isn't even mandated nationwide.

Perhaps this change will help deter people pursuing bunk degrees as majors, or at the very least lower their expectations on how successful they'll be.

Gotta fix tax loopholes, inflation, worker rights, and minimum wage first. Worry about providing surplus federal budget later.

[Torto]

Sadly public broadcasting has turned into a government-funded liberal political structure.

Unfortunately that is a global phenomenon. It needs to end

[Wells]

Unfortunately that is a global phenomenon. It needs to end

You sure you know what agency you're talking about this time?

[schwarzkopf]

We need one thread "Trump intends to End Civilisation" - that should cover a portion of his plans.

[araine]

Make America great again.. by firing all the people that work for the government which doesnt fit to trumps agenda.

thats how fascist clean up it has always been that way everywhere it has been tried and ended up failing miserable later on as well. some shit is obviously not learned in schools like history is bound to repeat itself if you dont know your history.

[Wells]

Well take heart regarding the Administration's purges. That can get them in a lot of legal trouble.

[Torto]

You sure you know what agency you're talking about this time?

It's a relief to know I have you monitoring my posts just in case I get an abbreviation wrong.

[Wells]

It's a relief to know I have you monitoring my posts just in case I get an abbreviation wrong.

I was the one you were mixing them up to, but ok.

[Sunaka]

You sure you know what agency you're talking about this time?

Is it PBS & J sandwiches?

[Deleted]

Can't say much about the rest of the cuts but I fully agree with cutting spending on public broadcasting and "the arts".

The same discussion has been going on here in my own country for some time aswell.