California ranked 42nd nationally in education

[Milchshake]

Emeryville, in general, I always thought felt a bit off. Even in the middle of the day that place feels like a part of the twilight zone.

Gotta give the council credit for cleaning the place up. But yeah, they over did it on the gentrification, it does feel weird. The weirdest are those huge pharmaceutical companies on Hollis, with the big towers that look like incinerators. One's imagination goes to dark places... and that not even mentioning The Maze.

[Mayhem]

That sounds really familiar like this guy that won a contest recently. He didn't win the grand prize though, that required both judge votes and audience votes.

To be fair, the pumpkin head you´re talking about isn´t a career politician.

[Calfredd]

To be fair, the pumpkin head you´re talking about isn´t a career politician.

Mostly doing it because I know it triggers him but also because he's being slightly hypocritical about his criticisms.

[Mayhem]

Mostly doing it because I know it triggers him but also because he's being slightly hypocritical about his criticisms.

You have a weird definition of slightly. ^^

[Independent voter]

Proposition 13.

This is the right answer.

There was this old geezer back in the day, his property tax bill came in the mail and he was shocked at how high it was. The politicians waved him off saying they needed that money for roads, libraries and schools but that didn't stop the geezer. He looked around and found an old clause in the California Constitution that let a citizen propose a law, if he could get the signatures of a couple hundred thousand of his fellow citizens, the geezer's new law would go up for a popular vote next election.

Not surprisingly a lot of citizens decided they would like a big tax cut too. The geezer's law was passed by voters and taxes were drastically cut.

So that's why California is 42nd nationally in education. No money.

[Hooked]

Education starts in the home. If parents taught their kids how to act the world would be a better place.

[Sorshen]

Goody more wasted money for citizens, paying for illegals education. Thanks for nothing pal.

Want to live in a country of stupid people? Sure, deny them education then. Also, if they're born in the US they're citizens.

[Polybius]

Probably because Stanford doesn't let all the weirdos in, I predict schools like ucla and usc will plummet as they get more left wing radicalized.

That's not how admissions work. And this is why no one can have a serious conversation with you, even those of the same political standing.

The meager skills you've honed entitle you champion of sh!tposting.

You say education starts at home, with learning how to act. Clearly that didn't work on you.

Worth the infraction

[zenkai]

So you're saying the government needs to spend more money on education? Sure, let's do it.


Of course, California also has some of the highest ranking Universities, both state and private, not only in the nation but in the world.

I think we need to come up with better plans before we throw money at it. More money does not equal better spending, it usually ends up being wasted, it never goes to the people who needs it. Most of the money in my wife's school district goes to bullshit administration jobs, then they try to cut teachers pay saying they make too much.

[Dug]

Well lets take the ludicrous amount of money we'd spend on the wall and put it towards education then hmm?

[Gamdwelf]

I went to highschool in California and it was very good.

[zenkai]

I went to highschool in California and it was very good.

I can't tell if you're serious or joking.

[Kaganfindel]

Well lets take the ludicrous amount of money we'd spend on the wall and put it towards education then hmm?

Only four countries spend more than we do per capita on education. We're not ranked fourth worldwide for achievement. Throwing more money at our school system might not make it any better.

[Dug]

Only four countries spend more than we do per capita on education. We're not ranked fourth worldwide for achievement. Throwing more money at our school system might not make it any better.

No but might not make it any worse. If the money is spend sensibly and in the places that need it I can see it helping. Just throwing a lump sum at districts doesn't work as most of them buy moronic shit like upgrades to football stadiums, and football equipment... and other stupid sports shit instead of investing in education and technology to expand learning. Or they do buy some tech but it's niche and gets one use and is never used again.

My mother has worked in education for 20 years and the amount of tablets they buy and never use again is ridiculous. I've gotten three free ipads because the school has no use for them.

[Kaganfindel]

So you'd be for more spending with oversight you agree with. That's pretty much everyone's solution to everything, and it's a plan that almost always gets dashed on the rocks of ways and means.

[Dug]

So you'd be for more spending with oversight you agree with. That's pretty much everyone's solution to everything, and it's a plan that almost always gets dashed on the rocks of ways and means.

Doesn't inherently mean it's something I "agree" with just something that's proven to work. I despise common core but if it's proven to work and get better results out of education then by all means go for it.

But I'm not an educator and cannot begin to comment on what I think would be worthwhile to pursue. I'll leave that to the people with background in education and have a passion for it.

[Gamdwelf]

I can't tell if you're serious or joking.

Of course I'm being serious. Coming from California to college in Nebraska I was way more prepared for college than almost everyone I met.

At least the highschool I went to seemed better than almost any high school in Nebraska. I met kids from just about every major high school in the state at the premier university, and I didn't go to some high end California high school.

[Toppy]

Californians and those that defend it often forget that a lot of their population lives in poor conditions with lower education. Its one of those states (like Massachusetts) where many of the lesser off areas are ignored in favor of the better funded areas. But the highly liberal population of western California just sort of write them off as not mattering. Same happens in Massachusetts where Western Mass is ignored in favor of Eastern Mass. Occasionally you'll have movements in MA to split the state in two since Western Mass is tired of Boston and the surrounding areas' shit.

[urasim]

you mean third?


I too can cherrypick websites that say a state's education is good or bad.

Note where Republican trifecta states rank and where Democratic trifecta states rank


Cherry-picking is a powerful drug

You linked something that only deals with a tiny amount of high schools. Sure, if we're talking about all the states with gold medal high schools you'd have a point. The topic is general education. Look at the OP's link. It's all education and effectiveness of the schools in educating people. You're the one being dishonest and cherry picking.

http://www.edweek.org/media/2016/12/...ounts-2017.pdf

He's not even talking about overall grades of students, but the overall effectiveness of the schools in each state. There's obviously issues that need to be addressed, and deflecting these issues, like you just did, only causes more issues.

EDIT:

Chance for success.

School finance.
K-12 Achievement.

[Mad_Murdock]

http://www.edweek.org/media/2016/12/...ounts-2017.pdf

He's not even talking about overall grades of students, but the overall effectiveness of the schools in each state. There's obviously issues that need to be addressed, and deflecting these issues, like you just did, only causes more issues.

Here is all I get out of that link. The US is doing terrible overall, at least at the K-12 level. That alone should be a rally cry to get more something across the board. But, let's fight over who is the best\worst of the mediocres