How often do you eat tomato-based meals?

[MatthewOU2015]

Daily and I love it

[Trassk]

Tomatoless meals. Supernoodles with sliced ham, mushroom and spring onions. Roast chicken with roast potatoes and Yorkshire pudding. Paella. Sausage and mash. Fajitas with chicken, peppers, avocado and cream sauce. Beef Wellington. This was examples of dinners I had this week, showing that tomatoes are easily avoided.

[Deleted]

The only problem with tomatoes is getting the damn seeds separated from the rest of it when making sauce.

I hear you man. Sick of tomatoes but its so easy to make meals with it. I miss potatoes, but a 10 pound bag is very heavy to carry for 6 blocks.

If this lady can do it, so can you.

[belfpala]

The only problem with tomatoes is getting the damn seeds separated from the rest of it when making sauce.

[Nihilist74]

I could go for some spaghetti with beef tomato sauce and Italian sausage. I have not had that in a long time. I try to avoid pasta though.

[Rudkobing]

Once in a blue moon.

[Vankrys]

I hate tomato stuff, pizza, remove every single tomato from burgers, hate spaghetti etc. It's pretty much the only veggie I really can't stand. Disgusting taste.

actually, tomato is a fruit.

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name a meal that is tomato based? pasta can use tomato sauce but i would hardly call the meal "tomato based" also if your pasta sauce is any good it will have almost 0 hint of tomato flavor.

tomates farcies

[Stelio Kontos]

a 10 pound bag is very heavy to carry for 6 blocks.

https://www.amazon.com/Wellmax-WM990...s=folding+cart

Got one of these since moving to a controlled access multi-floor apartment building. Garage is underground, so hauling groceries up flights of stairs or up elevators is a pain if you buy a lot. Been a life saver.

[melodramocracy]

in every food I can think of

Maybe you should expand your horizons.

[shadowmouse]

actually, tomato is a fruit.

There's always one in the crowd. I'll see your correction and raise: https://supreme.justia.com/cases/fed.../304/case.html

The court unanimously decided that the scientific classification of a tomato doesn't change common language. Therefore, the Tariff Act intended to tax tomatoes. And the Nix family wouldn't get their money back. The opinion of the court read:

Botanically speaking, tomatoes are the fruit of a vine, just as are cucumbers, squashes, beans, and peas. But in the common language of the people, whether sellers or consumers of provisions, all these are vegetables which are grown in kitchen gardens, and which, whether eaten cooked or raw, are, like potatoes, carrots, parsnips, turnips, beets, cauliflower, cabbage, celery, and lettuce, usually served at dinner in, with, or after the soup, fish, or meats which constitute the principal part of the repast, and not, like fruits generally, as dessert.

Source: http://www.businessinsider.com/supre...etable-2013-12

[Noogai131]

When I was on a proper diet and exercise routine (like i'm hopefully getting back into next week) my diet consisted of sandwhiches made from cold meat, sliced tomatoes and lettuce + cheese, and dinner was a sort of curry made from chicken, with a sauce made from a tin of diced tomatoes with Cumin and Coriander, with a touch of Cayenne for heat over a bed of rice.

Chicken prices here vary between 9-10$ per kilo, and a Kilo of chicken would last me about half the week or more with this, so it is pretty damn cheap.

Tomato is just a good way of adding a depth of flavor to a dish that would normally have next to none (chicken and rice ain't very full of flavor), and they're so bloody cheap.

[Salty Maud]

Tomato based means tomato is the primary ingredient. Pizza and spaghetti don't qualify. They do contain tomato though.

I'm pretty sure the way i make my sauce the main ingredient is tomato.

[Felicia]

Every now and then. Only when I order a pizza, or get a burger. Those are also the only times I eat meat, too... besides fish, anyway. My stomach's been ultra sensitive lately, and tomatoes were contributing. So I decided to drop them from my diet. It's a shame. I love tomatoes. I didn't even eat a lot of them before that.

Yeah... only pizza and the occasional burger. And I'll eat grape/cherry tomatoes in a salad, too. Other than that, nope.

[Vankrys]

There's always one in the crowd. I'll see your correction and raise: https://supreme.justia.com/cases/fed.../304/case.html


Source: http://www.businessinsider.com/supre...etable-2013-12

Hi

I just want to preface this by saying i have nothing against you and do not mean in any way to address my comment against you.

That being said, you present me with some supreme court ruling about tomato (i can't believe i am actually writting those words) and i have to say this..

a bunch of older, grey hair dude that have no idea what is a covalent bond, that have no idea how to solve a differential equation, that haven't the shortest knowledge about biology, botany or any science is willing to make a ruling about scientific data? The supreme court can kiss my ass, learn some science then come back.

Scientific Definition of a fruit (and vegetable).

fruit or fruits. a. The ripened ovary or ovaries of a seed-bearing plant, together with accessory parts, containing the seeds and occurring in a wide variety of forms.
http://www.yourdictionary.com/fruit

In botany, a fruit is the seed-bearing structure in flowering plants (also known as angiosperms) formed from the ovary after flowering. Fruits are the means by which angiosperms disseminate seeds.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fruit

Botanically speaking, a fruit is a seed-bearing structure that develops from the ovary of a flowering plant, whereas vegetables are all other plant parts, such as roots, leaves and stems. By those standards, seedy outgrowths such as apples, squash and, yes, tomatoes are all fruits, while roots such as beets, potatoes and turnips, leaves such as spinach, kale and lettuce, and stems such as celery and broccoli are all vegetables.
http://www.livescience.com/33991-dif...egetables.html

By all scientific, botanic, definition of the term, tomato is a fruit.


Lawyers and politicians often think they are smarter than anyone when in fact, they are completely full of shit and don't know the first thing about science.

[shadowmouse]

Lawyers and politicians often think they are smarter than anyone when in fact, they are completely full of shit and don't know the first thing about science.

Or, conversely, scientists think they are smarter than anyone and want to apply their specialized terminology knowing damned well that they're looking down on the everyday usage of a word. In a botany thread, botany is relevant. In a thread about food, much as the Nix case points out, there are things that are commonly spoken of as fruit. To be the guy who has to use botany to correct that is being rather pompous.

[Vankrys]

Or, conversely, scientists think they are smarter than anyone and want to apply their specialized terminology knowing damned well that they're looking down on the everyday usage of a word. In a botany thread, botany is relevant. In a thread about food, much as the Nix case points out, there are things that are commonly spoken of as fruit. To be the guy who has to use botany to correct that is being rather pompous.

this is what make no sense to me.

Science is neither humble nor pompous. Science have no evil nor rightous, Science is just fact.
Tomatoes have seeds, tomatoes are fruits by the very definition of what a fruit is.

I'm sure a lawyers can argue that the earth is flat in court and somewhat even win the argument, that doesn't make it right, or scientifically sound.
Society is dominated by politicians that wants the natural world bend to their will.

And why is using botany when talking about vegetal kingdom deemed pompous?

And by the way, every single university professor i spoke to in my university year talk about about how much they don't know rather that how much they know.
This is a trend i have witness and experience myself. The more you learn, the more you realize you don't know, the more humble you are.

[belfpala]

this is what make no sense to me.

Science is neither humble nor pompous. Science is just fact.
Tomatoes have seeds, tomatoes are fruits by the very definition of what a fruit is.

I'm sure a lawyers can argue that the earth is flat in court and somewhat even win the argument, that doesn't make it right, or scientifically sound.
Society is dominated by politicians that wants the natural world bend to their will.

This isn't as if politics is defining Pi as exactly 3. That's not arbitrary. The definition of fruit or vegetable is arbitrary.

In any case, it doesn't matter. This thread is about tomatoes in meals, not about their location on the food pyramid.

[shadowmouse]

Science is neither humble nor pompous. Science have no evil nor rightous, Science is just fact.

Facts are facts. Facts themselves may be neutral; however, science is the search for facts and the application of them and that brings humans into it. Humans, scientists among them, are quite capable of being pompous.

Given your writing style and that this is an international forum, it is possible that you are not a native speaker. If that is the case, I have no way to know if the different usages of "tomato" exist in your language.

Here is what Oxford dictionaries would have told you:

The confusion about 'fruit' and 'vegetable' arises because of the differences in usage between scientists and cooks. Scientifically speaking, a tomato is definitely a fruit. True fruits are developed from the ovary in the base of the flower, and contain the seeds of the plant (though cultivated forms may be seedless). Blueberries, raspberries, and oranges are true fruits, and so are many kinds of nut. Some plants have a soft part which supports the seeds and is also called a 'fruit', though it is not developed from the ovary: the strawberry is an example.

As far as cooking is concerned, some things which are strictly fruits, such as tomatoes or bean pods, may be called 'vegetables' because they are used in savoury rather than sweet cooking. The term 'vegetable' is more generally used of other edible parts of plants, such as cabbage leaves, celery stalks, and potato tubers, which are not strictly the fruit of the plant from which they come. Occasionally the term 'fruit' may be used to refer to a part of a plant which is not a fruit, but which is used in sweet cooking: rhubarb, for example.

So, the answer to the question is that a tomato is technically the fruit of the tomato plant, but it's used as a vegetable in cooking.

Source: https://en.oxforddictionaries.com/ex...or-a-vegetable

And by the way, every single university professor i spoke to in my university year talk about about how much they don't know rather that how much they know.

I'm not sure what a "university year" means to you, that is one of the things that makes me realize that you may not be a native speaker. You might, however, want to consider that quite a few people here have already finished one or more four year degrees and several have degrees beyond that. One of the lessons that you should learn as you progress through the university system is that you need to learn to research. You will also learn that things generally become more nuanced as you move beyond introductory classes. Do your research, keep an open mind.

[Deleted]

I could see how it might work with those tomatoes but there's the problem of canned and other tomato types.

The best I could find was one of these things.