Petition for J.K. Rowling to take in muslim refugees in her 18 spare bedrooms

[Deleted]

True, but he had nowhere near as many celebrity endorsements and then he had the celebrities attempt to rebel against him with that electoral college plea.

(I don't support Trump (though neither do I think he is Hitler), I'm just pointing out that, by and large, Hillary had almost the entirety of Hollywood behind her.)

That is true enough, and I don't get me wrong on this topic I do understand the sentiment that JK Rowling's opinion on this topic is unpopular, and that people want her beholden to it as an example. But we are all entitled to our opinions and even this very petition is an expression of that.

The catch is just that people only behold what they don't like, not what they also like/believe. Someone gave a good example before in this thread, that does against abortion should then adopt those unwanted babies.

[Darkeon]

This is like telling me that because I support gay marriage, I need to divorce my wife and marry a dude.

Or, this is like telling someone who is extremely rich, with plenty of spare place to house several extra people, to virtue signal with actions instead of words.

It's not that hard of an example that it needs to call for comparisons, especially with things completely unrelated.

[Deleted]

I didn't say it was the refugees fault please quote me on that? I blame it fully on the government of Sweden who are willing g to pay 60000kr (6000euro~) a month to rent an apartment for a single refugee. https://www.svd.se/lagenhet-till-fly...-000-i-manaden

No, but I assumed it was aimed at that cause generally people that do speak about it, blame it all on immigrants like its them chasing them out etc, sorry if I faulted you.

Though this article is about one company that is abusing a system and people, by raising the price to absurd levels and the municipality can't afford it for good reasons. And it's not just for normal apartments either, its 'utslussningslägenheter' so it involves lot of personal etc. Though the price these companies take out is asinine and simply shitty way to earn lots of money on refugees.

[TZucchini]

Or, this is like telling someone who is extremely rich, with plenty of spare place to house several extra people, to virtue signal with actions instead of words.

It's not that hard of an example that it needs to call for comparisons, especially with things completely unrelated.

It's ALREADY a fucking comparison. Her support for refugee policy at the federal level does not equate to personally taking in refugees.

[Darkeon]

It's ALREADY a fucking comparison. Her support for refugee policy at the federal level does not equate to personally taking in refugees.

Yup, that's the point. We should take refugees... as long as they stay really far away! Immirite?

[JohnBrown1917]

Yup, that's the point. We should take refugees... as long as they stay really far away! Immirite?

Nobody is forced to take in refugees, so why should she?

[Machismo]

Not going to even argue it further, just go back 100 plus years when reading was only for the elite and the avg person worked 16 hours a day because.

She gains allot from the system, if you can't see that education, infrastructure and the likes has benefited artist greatly then you really need to go back to elementary to see how society has changed when government took a more active role in education and in people's lives.

I'm not saying she did not gain a lot from a system, I'm saying there's nothing to show that she took so much more from a system than an average person, to justify charging her significantly more than the average person even makes in a lifetime.

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The US is a democratic republic, just because it has limited on democracy doesn't mean it isn't democratic.

It's not much of a democracy, since some people's votes are worth more than others. It's fundamentally no different than saying a person's voting power should be based on how much they pay in taxes.

[King Shark]

Or, this is like telling someone who is extremely rich, with plenty of spare place to house several extra people, to virtue signal with actions instead of words.

It's not that hard of an example that it needs to call for comparisons, especially with things completely unrelated.

She's donated more to charity than everyone in this thread combined, me included, will make in a lifetime. No one in this fucking thread has any moral authority to judge this woman.

[Thalassian Bob]

That is true enough, and I don't get me wrong on this topic I do understand the sentiment that JK Rowling's opinion on this topic is unpopular, and that people want her beholden to it as an example. But we are all entitled to our opinions and even this very petition is an expression of that.

The catch is just that people only behold what they don't like, not what they also like/believe. Someone gave a good example before in this thread, that does against abortion should then adopt those unwanted babies.

I agree that all these people should be entitled to their opinions and they should have the right to share them, but that doesn't mean those opinions have to be respected by the people who are going to be most affected by the things they are calling for and it doesn't protect them from irreverent jibes like this petition.

And, yeah, I totally think that "pro-life" people should be willing to pay towards a welfare and social services system that will look after unwanted children, but George Carlin pointed out the hypocrisy of those people when he said, "If you're pre-born, you're fine. If you're pre-school, you're fucked!".

[Darkeon]

Nobody is forced to take in refugees, so why should she?

I'm glad you take this stance. I take it you are okay with people that are for really controlled entry of refugees then; or no entry at all? And don't look down on the people who hold these views?

[TZucchini]

Yup, that's the point. We should take refugees... as long as they stay really far away! Immirite?

Well no, I don't think anyone is calling for that specific idea. You can support a broad refugee policy at the federal level without also supporting the housing of those refugees in your home.

In other words, this petition is incredibly stupid. And the people that created it are also incredibly stupid.

[Deleted]

Yup, that's the point. We should take refugees... as long as they stay really far away! Immirite?

No, not right. She doesn't care if they're her neighbours, but she doesn't have to accept strangers into her own home to be compassionate to their plight.

[Darkeon]

No, not right. She doesn't care if they're her neighbours, but she doesn't have to accept strangers into her own home to be compassionate to their plight.

Yet, none will be her neighbor. Interesting, isn't it?

[Deleted]

I'm not in favor of forcing anyone to take anyone in - however, those who virtue signal, while pointing down on others from their high horses, should show their superior being with actions, not with words.

Until then, it's just yet another big, rich, hypocrite. One in a sea of them.

She's donated 50% of her profits to the unfortunate, isn't that a pretty big gesture? More than most criticizing her

[JohnBrown1917]

I'm glad you take this stance. I take it you are okay with people that are for really controlled entry of refugees then; or no entry at all? And don't look down on the people who hold these views?

We are talking about taking refugees in private homes.

[Darkeon]

We are talking about taking refugees in private homes.

Oh? That means you do then? Unfortunate.

[Deleted]

Yup, that's the point. We should take refugees... as long as they stay really far away! Immirite?

Is she against refugees living in her town?

[cubby]

https://www.change.org/p/j-k-rowling...spare-bedrooms

So, J.K. Rowling is all for accepting refugees - this petition is about suggesting her to stop talking and starting to act

Yeah, that's really practical. Makes perfect sense. Gotta love the alt-right crazy train.

1,000,000+ refugee problem but let's put effort towards ridiculous notions to make an irrelevant point.

[Theinquisition]

Do we know she doesn't give to programs that help refugees? I have no idea, but do you? Does anybody who are jerking off about "HURR JK DUN WANNA PAY FOR DEM HERSELF!"

That logic doesn't even make sense. She's a single citizen, even if she's insanely wealthy. Its a governmental function.

A government function that seems to be losing favor. I dont think its inappropriate to ask her to make her home available if she is such a advocate of the refugee program.

After all its not like she would be affected by the increased crime that is often associated with mass refugees.

[zenkai]

I'm not saying she did not gain a lot from a system, I'm saying there's nothing to show that she took so much more from a system than an average person, to justify charging her significantly more than the average person even makes in a lifetime.

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It's not much of a democracy, since some people's votes are worth more than others. It's fundamentally no different than saying a person's voting power should be based on how much they pay in taxes.

The merit of the democracy under EC voting I will leave it up to you to argue, I am just saying to simply say it isn't a democracy is factually false.