Neo-Nazi gets punched in the face while handing out racist fliers at campus

[Yuujin]

In other news, the man who was punched in the face saw a 12,000% rise in book sales.

[Xeones]

So you are okay with punching communists then right? The Khmer Rouge did almost wipe out the entire Khmer people after all just like the Nazis almost wiped out the Ashkenazi Jews and Gypsies.

Then I'd be for punching the Khmer Rouge in your example.

Nazi ideology revolves around genocide. Communism as a ideology does not.

[Yuujin]

So you are okay with punching communists then right? The Khmer Rouge did almost wipe out the entire Khmer people after all just like the Nazis almost wiped out the Ashkenazi Jews and Gypsies.

What a stupid fucking statement. You need to learn to connect your dots better. Maybe stick to one page and not draw all over the place.

[Zandalarian Paladin]

Let's play "Who's the idiot!"

A Neo-Nazi in the middle of a University distributing pamphlets, or the man publicly punching him in the face for disagreeing?

Hint: Pick any and you win.

[Yuujin]

Let's play "Who's the idiot!"

A Neo-Nazi in the middle of a University distributing pamphlets, or the man publicly punching him in the face for disagreeing?

Hint: Pick any and you win.

This is the new America. It's okay the bully people and exercise your freedom of speech, but when someone punches you in your stupid face for it, you become the victim and they are the animal.

[DeadmanWalking]

So you are okay with punching communists then right? The Khmer Rouge did almost wipe out the entire Khmer people after all just like the Nazis almost wiped out the Ashkenazi Jews and Gypsies.

I'm okay with punching anyone who says shit worthy of punching, The only reason why we are even talking about a Nazi is because todays Nazi's are a bunch of cowards with big mouths and think that everyone is required to listen to them and when reality hits back they go to internet forums to cry like babies. At least in a bar fight someone had the balls to stand up for themselves and nobody went crying on an internet forum that it isn't fair.

[Deletedaccount1]

Then I'd be for punching the Khmer Rouge in your example.

Nazi ideology revolves around genocide. Communism as a ideology does not.

Nazi ideology focuses on racial homogeneity or "purity". Facism and Nazism don't explicitly state the intention of genocide to achieve this. Communism doesn't state the intention of genocide when it aims to eliminate economic classes and create a publicly owned society but every time this has been tried, genocide arises.

They are both bad ideologies. One being racist doesn't make it any worse from a consequentialist perspective. The point is that you shouldn't be able to punch people for having ideas different from your own, regardless of how bad they might be.

Most people wouldn't say it's okay to punch someone who thinks that humanity should mass suicide for the good of the planet or something ridiculous like that. People think it's okay to punch Nazis because they are emotionally angered by what Nazis say and they believe that gives them a mandate to harm them against basic ethics and legal precedent.

[Cizr]

Can we read the Bible, and compare the two?

Yeah sure,you should do that.
Also compare western countries with muslim countries

[Deletedaccount1]

I'm okay with punching anyone who says shit worthy of punching, The only reason why we are even talking about a Nazi is because todays Nazi's are a bunch of cowards with big mouths and think that everyone is required to listen to them and when reality hits back they go to internet forums to cry like babies. At least in a bar fight someone had the balls to stand up for themselves and nobody went crying on an internet forum that it isn't fair.

The issue here is that different people have different ideas about what's "worthy of punching". I prefer Nazis being a bunch of cowards with big mouths like they are today rather than a bunch of brave guys with big mouths like they were in WW2.

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What a stupid fucking statement. You need to learn to connect your dots better. Maybe stick to one page and not draw all over the place.

Why's that? How is saying it's okay to harm one group of people who make me feel upset any more rational?

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This is the new America. It's okay the bully people and exercise your freedom of speech, but when someone punches you in your stupid face for it, you become the victim and they are the animal.

Yeah one breaks the law and the other doesn't. "provoked assault" from handing out fliers doesn't make sense.

What do you mean by "the new America" when was it ever okay to punch someone for disagreeing with you? The red scare?

[Evil Midnight Bomber]

So you are okay with punching communists then right? The Khmer Rouge did almost wipe out the entire Khmer people after all just like the Nazis almost wiped out the Ashkenazi Jews and Gypsies.

"Communist" is a much more general term than "Nazi"

[Yuujin]

Why's that? How is saying it's okay to harm one group of people who make me feel upset any more rational?

That isn't what you said.

What do you mean by "the new America" when was it ever okay to punch someone for disagreeing with you? The red scare?

You seem to have a hard on for communism.

[Deletedaccount1]

That isn't what you said.



You seem to have a hard on for communism.

I know I didn't say that, I'm saying how is it rational to defend harming one group for holding bad ideas but not another?

I don't have more of an anti-communist hard-on more than anyone else who hates genocide. That said, I'm arguing the red scare is wrong just like causing physical harm to people for holding other bad ideas is wrong.

[phitness]

Yea if someone came up to me with all black clothes and a mask on I'd already be reaching for my gun. It's gonna be a rude awakening for these snowflakes when people start shooting them for thinking they are above the law.

[Endus]

I know I didn't say that, I'm saying how is it rational to defend harming one group for holding bad ideas but not another?

I don't have more of an anti-communist hard-on more than anyone else who hates genocide. That said, I'm arguing the red scare is wrong just like causing physical harm to people for holding other bad ideas is wrong.

See, the problem with your claim here is that your anti-communist screed isn't based in reality, it's based in McCarthyist propaganda. Literally all you're doing is demonstrating a complete failure to understand what "communism" is, and what it entails.

There's nothing about communist theory that requires a genocide of any particular group. The same is not true of Nazi ideologies.

Given that Nazi ideologies were largely state capitalist in nature, the equivalent to pointing at the behaviour of the Khmer Rouge and talking about "communism" would be looking at the Nazis and blaming "capitalism" for those actions.

Which is obviously and patently ridiculous and baseless. For exactly the same reasons, and in exactly the same ways, as your non-argument.

[Yuujin]

I know I didn't say that, I'm saying how is it rational to defend harming one group for holding bad ideas but not another?

I don't have more of an anti-communist hard-on more than anyone else who hates genocide. That said, I'm arguing the red scare is wrong just like causing physical harm to people for holding other bad ideas is wrong.

Communism is a form of government. It doesn't promote genocide. Just like fascism doesn't promote genocide.

And I do. Provocateurs, bullies, and other shitty individuals can benefit from a good punch in the face.

[Endus]

Communism is a form of government.

It isn't even that. It's an economic system. It's in the same class as things like "capitalism" and "socialism" and "mercantilism", not things like "fascism" or "authoritarianism" or "democracy".

The Marxist communist utopia was a stateless society, so referring to it as a system of government is just not correct.

[Powerogue]

Another case of a masked vigilante/superhero punching a Neo-Nazi in the face. Are we witnessesing a rige in vigilantism?

Damn it not again! When will these masked maniacs stop!?



(But naw, freedom of speech and all that. I just couldn't resist the opportunity.)

[phitness]

Damn it not again! When will these masked maniacs stop!?

Ok now show the one where Captain America tells women to shut their mouths and get back in the kitchen where they belong.

[Ragedaug]

So what's the solution, let them use free speech for their ideology to gain traction?

Fighting fascism with fascism doesn't seem like it would work (and isn't working). You have to show everyone your ideas are better. If you try to bully and silence someone who is behaving well, even though their ideas are very bad, you will lose that battle.

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No, Nazi's are not socialists, even if they call themselves national socialists. That's like saying that North Korea is a Democracy (or Republic) because they call themselves "Democratic Peoples Republic of North Korea".

No, they're Nazi's.

Holy shit, are people still trying to find ways to defend Nazi's in this thread? Is this real fucking life?

Nazis were absolutely socialists. Where are you seeing anything to the contrary?

[The Casualty]

Or Captain America would call them both idiots.