Gay Men 2% of Population But 67% of All New HIV Cases

[Cyberowl]

At least gay people can't get the worst STI of them all. Kids.

CHECK. MATE.

[Raelbo]

At least gay people can't get the worst STI of them all. Kids.

CHECK. MATE.

You're saying you'd rather have HIV/AIDS than kids? That's rather asinine.

I have a good friend who is gay and for him not being able to have kids has been a massive deal. Fortunately he has been able to adopt and he's an awesome father. It's tragic that in many places in the world the idea of gay men adopting kids is so vehemently and mindlessly opposed

[Mormolyce]

Meanwhile female to female sex has resulted in five reported cases ever.

http://www.aidsmap.com/Female-to-fem.../page/1323529/

The infection risk goes:

Men who have sex with men
Men who don't have sex with men
Women who have sex with men
....
Women who have sex with women

It's not a gay disease. It's a male disease.

[Cyberowl]

You're saying you'd rather have HIV/AIDS than kids? That's rather asinine.

I have a good friend who is gay and for him not being able to have kids has been a massive deal. Fortunately he has been able to adopt and he's an awesome father. It's tragic that in many places in the world the idea of gay men adopting kids is so vehemently and mindlessly opposed

Well, the treatment is cheaper...

[Geschan]

Meanwhile female to female sex has resulted in five reported cases ever.

http://www.aidsmap.com/Female-to-fem.../page/1323529/

The infection risk goes:

Men who have sex with men
Men who don't have sex with men
Women who have sex with men
....
Women who have sex with women

It's not a gay disease. It's a male disease.

Wrong conclusion.
While the numbers do correlate, being male is not the cause for infection.
The type of sexual intercourse is the factor that determines the risk of infection.
HIV does not care for gender. As long as no fluids are exchanged the risk of infection is the same for all gender combinations: Zero.

The best way to combat HIV? Free condoms and education.
Praying will not help with infection rates, abstinence instead of proper sex ed will not help.
And even then there will always be infections until a vaccine is developed and enforced.
Some people simply don't care.

[Independent voter]

Butt secks is risky.

Remember those prisoners in Gitmo who wouldn't eat and they fed rectally? Your butt absorbs food through the intestinal wall, enough for you to be fed, if it can absorb food it can absorb a virus.

[Dolus]

nature does not speak, nature is a concept that gather non artificial man made elements of the world.
Beside the concept of homosexuality is common in nature, in the animal kingdom. It's only logical that men (which are part of the animal kingdom) also experience it.

Also, diseases have no political agenda, their just that diseases. Virus, bacteria, spores, mutation, whatever, all part of the natural world. Don't try to assign meaning to every stat you see.

Actually, no. Homosexuality isn't common in nature. At most, bisexuality. Animals lack reason (i.e. a means of expressing affective states). Consequently, animals often express their affective states ambiguously. They borrow various manifestations of their reproductive instincts and channel them into a sign of dominance and aggression. This act does not mean the animal in question is homosexual. If a species were homosexual it would fail to reproduce and would become extinct.

[owbu]

In other news, white people have more skin cancer than black people. Nature clearly hates white people!

[Deleted]

Man, gay men are so gay...

[Hammerfest]

Gay Men 2% of Population But 67% of All New HIV Cases

Wow, what a bigoted disease...

[Cyberowl]

Wow, what a bigoted disease...

Wow, that moronic statement (as expected, mind you).

[Zelorra]

Wow, what a bigoted disease...

Africa has 15% of the word population and 70% of people with HIV. So this virus is also racist. Black lives matter, you motherfucking bigoted racist virus you!!!!!

[Raelbo]

Butt secks is risky.

Remember those prisoners in Gitmo who wouldn't eat and they fed rectally? Your butt absorbs food through the intestinal wall, enough for you to be fed, if it can absorb food it can absorb a virus.

I don't think that's how it works...at all. During intercourse, the friction involved results in micro-lesions in the tissues which results in blood being transferred from one person to the other. That's how the virus gets in.

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Actually, no. Homosexuality isn't common in nature.

Actually, yes, it is. Do a google search.

Animals lack reason (i.e. a means of expressing affective states). Consequently, animals often express their affective states ambiguously. They borrow various manifestations of their reproductive instincts and channel them into a sign of dominance and aggression. This act does not mean the animal in question is homosexual.

You could apply the same argument to an animal being heterosexual. Ultimately it doesn't change the fact that many animal species have been documented to display instances of homosexual behaviour, which is really all that matters for the purposes of this discussion.

If a species were homosexual it would fail to reproduce and would become extinct.

No one is saying that any species is homosexual, simply that many species have homosexual behaviour in some of the population. Heterosexual behaviour is obviously the norm (in the statistical sense) for any species, including humanity, because otherwise procreation would not happen. But that doesn't mean that having some homosexual activity is unnatural, simply that it is unusual and practised by a statistically small portion of the population. Homosexual behaviour is "abnormal" in the sense that most people don't partake in it, not in the sense that there is anything intrinsically wrong with it (as was long thought).

To put it into perspective, I think about 100M people have played WoW. Which is about 1.4% of the human population, or 1/3 of the number of people who are homosexual. In effect playing WoW makes you or I more abnormal than a person who is gay.

[Spectral]

-- “Transgender individuals are also heavily affected by HIV. A 2008 review of HIV studies among transgender women found that, on average, 28 percent tested positive for HIV.”

I like the use of "are heavily affected" as though there's no agency here that's causing that. This is really a staggering a number though.

[Activi-T]

Bug chasers exist. Imo they are deranged, but they actually exist. PreP has imo been disastrous for the community too, far too many people do not use it properly for it to work. And due to PreP most mainstream gay porn studios have gone bareback.

Actually the recommendation by 4 clinics in London for gay men to use of PreP has seen a decrease in new cases of HIV by 40% https://www.newscientist.com/article...nternet-drugs/

While we should obviously be encouraging people to use condoms to cut STI transmission rates we should also be encouraging people to take PreP as a way of slowing down the rate of new cases of HIV.

[Mormolyce]

Wrong conclusion.
While the numbers do correlate, being male is not the cause for infection.
The type of sexual intercourse is the factor that determines the risk of infection.
HIV does not care for gender. As long as no fluids are exchanged the risk of infection is the same for all gender combinations: Zero.

The best way to combat HIV? Free condoms and education.
Praying will not help with infection rates, abstinence instead of proper sex ed will not help.
And even then there will always be infections until a vaccine is developed and enforced.
Some people simply don't care.

The kind of sex practiced by men, specifically.

Maybe you should start a campaign where you encourage people to do a lot more fingering.

[Kuntantee]

Conclusion: Wear a condom.

Isn't the whole reason why gay men are more susceptible to being infected related to anal injuries? All that in and out action causes anal bleeding = infection or smth.

Conclusion: fucking someone in the ass turned out not be that healthy.
Suggestion: Wear a god damn condom.

[Spectral]

Actually the recommendation by 4 clinics in London for gay men to use of PreP has seen a decrease in new cases of HIV by 40% https://www.newscientist.com/article...nternet-drugs/

While we should obviously be encouraging people to use condoms to cut STI transmission rates we should also be encouraging people to take PreP as a way of slowing down the rate of new cases of HIV.

The cost of this is ~$15K/year. I do not think it's reasonable to ask the public to cover a $15K/year drug that's necessarily only because of risky sexual behavior.

[Docturphil]

Transmission of blood during sex is how the disease is spread. It's more likely to happen during anal sex.

I thought it was any bodily fluid getting into your bloodstream? Can't cum in your butt get you infected?

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At least gay people can't get the worst STI of them all. Kids.

CHECK. MATE.

That's just horrible.

[DarkAmbient]

To sum this up.....

Shit happens.....

I see what you did there.