Great news: Employers are allowed to ban burquas!

[Krawu]

I don't really care either way personally, but of course you can ban your employees from wearing certain items of clothing if you want to go through all that hassle. It's just like how some companies enforce adherence to a certain dress code.

But can we include things like the Sikh dagger in this as well? They're basically allowed to take a small sword everywhere.

[Bodakane]

Great. Now stop insulting people, especially when they're baseless.

It's not baseless and you have no power to tell me what to do.

[Erwarth]

It's not baseless and you have no power to tell me what to do.

This quote is part of the edgy teenager starter pack. I read lots of your post and I have proof, but it's isn't court so accept it or gtfo

[nocturnus]

It's not baseless and you have no power to tell me what to do.

As long as you refuse to provide base, it's baseless. Pretty easy to understand, even for someone like you

Since you're wasted breath and provide nothing of value, I will ignore you from now on.

Now do your thing and have the last word, however ignorant it will be.

This quote is part of the edgy teenager starter pack.

DLC out soon.

[Bubblebeard]

There definitely needs to be a ruling which prohibits people from wearing any "symbols" of religion.
It's a place of work, not an environment in which you get to show off what team you root for...er...religion you're part of. Keep that nonsense at home or in your place of worship.

That is this ruling, your employer decides wether or not to implement it though.

[Deleted]

There's nothing racist about that. He discriminates, yes. But everyone does.

This.

Trust me, the people in my HRM department do it non-stop (and by themselves, not on my request). It's just how it works. Everywhere.

[Hyrja]

Good. Every company should ban this horrendous head wear.

[ati87]

I believe it's inherent in the argument that the usage of these particular clothing items - full burqa or not - by women constitutes an attempt of cultural/religious nature to curb their individual freedom.

But then again that's projection and allot of assumptions and not something based on bloody facts.

If a women wants to wear XYZ or doesn't want to wear XYZ it's her own choice, their was this ban of bikini's in Barcelona a while ago and nobody is arguing that guys are forcing women to wear bikini's, in public, so they canwhore themselves out now are they?

If people want to argue XYZ then do so but at least provide some bloody facts that back up those dammed claims, instead of mixing your arguments with a ton of assumptions and questionable motives.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worl...s-streets.html

I can also argue that the sky is purple, that chickens can lay down golden eggs and that Trump received a golden shower in russia. The first two I would be laughed at and for the third one I would be get sued by Trump./

[Kathandira]

I'll admit, I am not too familiar with European laws.

In the U.S. we have Freedom of Religion in our Constitution. Does Europe have such a law?

[Faenskap]

This also means an employer may ban other items that express political, philosophical or religious belief. So a Palestine scarf, cross, turbans, pagan/Viking Thor's hammers, just in case someone thinks it's just targetting Muslims.

To be fair, I have a hard time imagining women in niqab and burka wanting to work in Europe anyway. In fact, I have never seen a woman in burka, just niqab. They also realise it's hard/impossible to find a place to work with their clothing. Some do want to work, but when they have to choose between niqab or work, they choose niqab

This ruling came after Samira Achbita wanted to use her hijab in a company in Belgium, where their unwritten rule about not allowing religious symbols was changed to a written one. Before it was changed into a written rule, she was fired, as she expressed her intent to keep on using her hijab. She went to the Belgian courts, and the case went all the way to the highest instance, which was interested to see how the EU directive about equal treatment at the work place should be interpreted

I would recommend to check out this nice illustration about the different types of Muslim clothing for women: http://resources2.news.com.au/images...ng-graphic.jpg

[Puupi]

Niqab's are cool, they make you look like a Sith ninja!

[HumbleDuck]

First of all, it says headscarf and other religious symbols. So don't twist the news just to trigger people.
Second, it is against the very birth rights of a person. I can understand if wearing a specific outfit would be a requirement for a job, but in any other case, it's outright discrimination.

[Bodakane]

As long as you refuse to provide base, it's baseless. Pretty easy to understand, even for someone like you

Since you're wasted breath and provide nothing of value, I will ignore you from now on.

Now do your thing and have the last word, however ignorant it will be.

No, baseless means there's no base. Whether I provide something or not has no bearing if it's baseless or not.

[Dug]

Legit have never seen a burqa in the western world but I see hijabs. Few niqabs here and there but burqas are pretty rare. Anyways, this isn't "great news" but if an employer wants to prohibit religious wear in their offices then all the more power to them but I hope that includes crucifix and other garments that promote a religion.

[schwarzkopf]

That's sensible - face covering should be illegal for any reason other than a medical one.

There are two other garments available to the Muslim woman that meets their requirements, anything else is just silly.

I made this image to explain the options a while back:

[Deleted]

I concur, unless you mean those Baroque things that have been gilded to death. Gothic cathedrals rock, though.

This one, in my own town, is one of my favorites: http://tchorski.morkitu.org/14/brugge-377.JPG

Second largest brick building in the world, partially gothic, partially baroque.

[Deleted]

First of all, it says headscarf and other religious symbols. So don't twist the news just to trigger people.
Second, it is against the very birth rights of a person. I can understand if wearing a specific outfit would be a requirement for a job, but in any other case, it's outright discrimination.

?
No, it's not.
Some customers (probably most) take offense wearing specific attire that has no relation to the job whatsoever, a bussiness has every right to decline certain wear if it costs them customers.
I mean seriously, stop being so politically correct & think logical for a few seconds.

If a nun is wearing her attire in a shoestore, i'd also be like 'wtf is that about'.
This whole muslim political correctness is really being taken too far with each passing day honestly.

Look at the Turkey thing going on right now, they have no valid arguements so they start calling holland 'remains of nazis', the leader of a country is calling others nazi's due to lack of proper arguementation, really?
please, for the love of ... stop being so politically correct over every single thing concerning muslims, you are destroying (no, i'm not being sarcastic or joking) western culture the way things are going right now.

[The Stormbringer]

Good, keep politics and religion out of the workplace.

But then what are people supposed to have heated discussions about? TV? Sports? Boooriiing!

[ItachiZaku]

But then what are people supposed to have heated discussions about? TV? Sports? Boooriiing!

#TeamNegan uh, YES.

[Cizr]

Justice and freedom won. I was not expecting it in EU.