Trump’s $1.1 Trillion Budget Makes Dramatic Cuts to Federal Government

[paralleluniverse]

Lying Trump: Stop spending on war and start spending on America.

Trump budget: Stop spending on America and boost spending on war.

[Glorious Leader]

There is a very very and very important distinction to be made... Those yellow rocks are finite. SO unless we can turn lead into gold anytime soon or mine an asteroid it's all we have. Bitcoin is the same... only a set number and that's all folks.

The money that the fed prints...is literally worthless except for the value given to it by HUMAN MONKEYS!.

Bitcoin and gold being finite does not give them.value. they are worthless save for the value given to them by humans. Its all equally arbitrary.

[Orlong]

Things like PBS, NEA, the EPA are not the big money suckers when it comes to government expenditure - cutting them will do fuck all, especially since the Republicans are almost certainly going to cut taxes across the board.

Keep touting that line but realize that while each agency may be a small amount of money, when you add up all the little amounts, they add up to a large amount. People say foreign aid is only 1% of the budget, EPA is only 1%, the arts is less than 1%, welfare fraud is less than 1%, PP is less than 1%, etc... and eventually if you add them all up you get a much larger percentage of spending. Much like the average person would have an additional $5000 or more over their lifetime if they actually picked up every penny, nickle, and dime that they dont bother to bend over and pick up when they see them on the ground.

Additionally, when they raise a tax or add a new one that adds a paltry amount to the coffers (soda tax, tobacco tax, etc...) people like you say its a great thing because it brings so much money in to fight X, yet its an exponentially smaller amount than any program cuts but hailed as a huge win.

[Pickynerd]

Who needs public schools, clean water, clean air, health care, public housing, corporation for public broadcasting, fighting infectious disease

All of this is a tragic waste of money.


Public schools: Yay forth grade reading!!

Clean water: Flint MI, Mmm Lead.

Clean air: What? Oh more taxes? Just build in China and pollute there..ohwait.

Health care: It's pretty good if you don't have to pay for it.

Public housing: Maybe you should research this before adding it as a con.

Corporation for public broadcasting: You can't be serious...

Fighting infectious disease: has been inconsistent at best.

[alexw]

Keep touting that line but realize that while each agency may be a small amount of money, when you add up all the little amounts, they add up to a large amount. People say foreign aid is only 1% of the budget, EPA is only 1%, the arts is less than 1%, welfare fraud is less than 1%, PP is less than 1%, etc... and eventually if you add them all up you get a much larger percentage of spending. Much like the average person would have an additional $5000 or more over their lifetime if they actually picked up every penny, nickle, and dime that they dont bother to bend over and pick up when they see them on the ground.

Additionally, when they raise a tax or add a new one that adds a paltry amount to the coffers (soda tax, tobacco tax, etc...) people like you say its a great thing because it brings so much money in to fight X, yet its an exponentially smaller amount than any program cuts but hailed as a huge win.

No, they don't they simply don't. The EPA doesn't make up 1% of the budget, it makes up 0.2%. Total spending on cultural items such as the arts make up 0.02% of the budget. And so on and so forth. As much as republicans hate these programs, they are a blip in terms of spending and save basically nothing if gotten rid of. You have just been taught to fear them so they seem to be outsized monsters swallowing cash when they are anything but. You are chasing shadows.

The reality is the non-military discretionary spending part of the budget makes up ~16% of all spending. This is what Trump is targeting for all the cuts. He is targeting 16% for 100% of the cuts rather than sharing them equally out among all programs, which is what a sane person would do if they were aiming to cut government outlays.

[Deleted]

Keep touting that line but realize that while each agency may be a small amount of money, when you add up all the little amounts, they add up to a large amount. People say foreign aid is only 1% of the budget, EPA is only 1%, the arts is less than 1%, welfare fraud is less than 1%, PP is less than 1%

So 5% then.

[alexw]

Because eventually you have to shift more assets to cover the debt if you allow it to balloon even more? Politically it's not in our interests either.

No this is nonsense.

The national debt is never ever paid off. It is simply rolled over in perpetuity by issuing more debt to meet prior issuance. That being the case their is no sale of assets.

Moreover you utterly mistake the role of our national debt. It is both a savings vehicle (go check your 401K and you will find gov bonds in it) and a means to keep the global economy functioning. Given the existence of a global economy in which nations trade there needs to be an underlying currency to facilitate that. The US dollar fulfills that role as the global reserve currency. As the global economy continually expands more dollars need to be issued and flow out of the US (which explains why we have to run perpetual trade deficits) to enable that economic expansion. If that doesn't happen the global economy will grind to a halt. The end result being that we print dollars (which cost nothing to print) to give to other nations who in turn give up real world goods and services in exchange. Call me crazy but I consider that a good deal. Its bonkers that so many don't and want to stop other nations giving us free stuff.

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So 5% then.

Probably about 0.6%.

[Shadowferal]

Hmf...so the toddler-in-chief wants to kill off such as FEMA...(one hurricane or tornado and that'll shut everyone in a red-state up), he wants to kill off Medicare, (the AARP might have something to say about that. They aren't known as the "gray mafia" for nothing. And they vote in droves) and then there's the EPA...it's as if Flint MI didn't teach the GOP anything. (The governor was more or less responsible for that fiasco)

[Macaquerie]

There is a very very and very important distinction to be made... Those yellow rocks are finite. SO unless we can turn lead into gold anytime soon or mine an asteroid it's all we have. Bitcoin is the same... only a set number and that's all folks.

The money that the fed prints...is literally worthless except for the value given to it by HUMAN MONKEYS!.

Well here's the thing, if money is gold, and gold is finite, then money is finite, meaning that it would be impossible to ever create new wealth, and hence it's pointless to ever try and grow the economy. Forget all of these farms and factories and skyscrapers and all that nonsense, what we really need to focus on is just amassing Smaug-like hoards of yellow rocks to sit just there in perpetuity, because having more coins means you win at life, right?

[Daelak]

Yeah a wall to keep out Mexicans is much more important than making sure people don't freeze to death in the winter.

Though I guess technically it's an "America first" agenda not an "American's first" agenda :P

Watch the Trumpers squabble in their defense to the most inept administration in history. Must be all that big gubmint schooling and education which makes the average republican voter go against their own interest.

[Low Hanging Fruit]

Our military spends more then what the next 10 or so powers in order of strength combined? I think the problem with the military isn't how much money they are getting but rather how they are spending it. Just dumping more cash into it isn't going to fix the issues with it I feel.

[Shadowferal]

This is like every initiative floating around now; Ryan's Tax Plan; The Healthcare Repeal and Replace bull; and this budget plan, none of which will get through congress, because all of it benefits the wealthy and damn few else. And it's been a big "FUCK YOU" to the rural blue collar white voter that voted for this diaper-man.

[Mormolyce]

Giving someone a job isnt a justification for keeping unnecessary government positions.

Only for jobs in air conditioner companies.

[Mehrunes]

Yeah a wall to keep out Mexicans is much more important than making sure people don't freeze to death in the winter.

The best part is how things like that affect the poor more, which mostly voted for Trump. I wonder if they'll ever realize their God Emperor shafted them, or if they'll continue worshiping him until said freezing to death, hoping that their bodies will be used as building material for ze wall.

[nacixems]

Super happy with all the cutts . way to go Trump. bout time!

[Shadowferal]

Super happy with all the cutts . way to go Trump. bout time!

Super happy about stupidity...or do you imagine in some flight of fantasy that this bit of 'genius' will ever get passed?

But then again you're probably one of those wealthy that benefits from this nonsense.

[Machismo]

Super happy with all the cutts . way to go Trump. bout time!

There's only one problem, he really didn't cut anything. he just loaded all of the funds into different agencies. In the end, we have as much government as we used to.

[Captain N]

How many threads have we seen blaming liberals for Trump being elected? It's mind boggling.

It shouldn't be mind-boggling at all. Trump is the poster boy for The Conservative Victim Complex™ so it's no surprise that his supporters just follow suit and blame everyone but themselves for this inevitable disaster.

[TwistedSkull]

Maybe Trump should cut the spending on his vacation and security on trump tower...

[Hiricine]

Haven't read too much about this but it is a TINY budget unless I'm missing something. Just imagine if he didn't hold the military as a sacred cow