WW Legendary changes/nerfs 7.2

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HAHAHAHAH Look at the blue post regarding our legendaries. Jesus fuck i am giving up on the WW developer.

[Conjugate]

I can understand that they want to bring all the legendaries in towards around the same DPS effectiveness, but they have to understand that this nerf brings our already middle-of-the-road DPS to an even worse position.

ie, would be great if they reduced cost of FoF to 2 Chi instead of 3 to compensate.

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Wait, how does this work? I've used transcendance on NORMAL Gul'dan to port out and still died because I broke bonds without anyone near by. How do you use transcendence to break bonds on M no less and still not die?

Also, you forgot Wind Walking, pretty nice stackable 10% (or 25% if you have ring) movement speed buff to your fellow raiders. Helps those poor DKs a lot.

Windwalking is not stackable with any other movement speed buff as far as I know.

And ye just place in teleport in melee before the bonds happen and teleport back in when you get knocked out, this way all the melees share your "breaking out" damage, just make sure the melee group is high enough health AND hasn't moved since you last placed your teleport, or bad things might happen:P

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HAHAHAHAH Look at the blue post regarding our legendaries. Jesus fuck i am giving up on the WW developer.

he's trolling.

he is.

he has to be.

/cryingmyselftosleepindespair

[Saverem]

And ye just place in teleport in melee before the bonds happen and teleport back in when you get knocked out, this way all the melees share your "breaking out" damage, just make sure the melee group is high enough health AND hasn't moved since you last placed your teleport, or bad things might happen:P

Don't you get teleported out more than 40 yards when it's empowered?

[Conjugate]

Don't you get teleported out more than 40 yards when it's empowered?

It's very close to 40 yards. In fact it's so close that if you jump(for example due to WDP) just before getting the knockback and as a result get pushed back a tiny bit more, you are already too far to break it without moving a bit first. Anyway it works just fine^^

[Eskendereya]

GREAT JOB BLIZZARD... Nerf the best Legendaries that aren't even remotely overpowered of a spec that is already mid-tier PVE DPS. Real smart move.

Way to piss off every PVE WW and make them seriously consider re-rolling to another spec or class.

[Beingbob]

HAHAHAHAH Look at the blue post regarding our legendaries. Jesus fuck i am giving up on the WW developer.

Where is this blue post?

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Where is this blue post?

http://blue.mmo-champion.com/topic/1...dary-feedback/

[Zephre]

Latest build is marked for release. Unfortunately it seems like no further changes will be made and they're ignoring the perfectly good and constructive feedback they've been given on their own PTR forums.

[Conjugate]

Latest build is marked for release. Unfortunately it seems like no further changes will be made and they're ignoring the perfectly good and constructive feedback they've been given on their own PTR forums.

They did actually say there's going to be a tuning patch before release, so I wouldn't lose hope yet.

[taek]

I stopped raiding on my WW recently, but I was curious if WW legendaries were that far out of line with other BiS legendaries so looked at the log data.

They really were not outliers, by heroic logs (if you go by mythic logs...there's even less difference).

Heroic NH logs:
WW #5 legendary: 644k dps
WW #1 legendary: 692k dps (+48k dps)

Assassination #5 legendary: 665k
Assassination #1 legendary: 735k (+70k dps)

Ret #5 legendary: 649k
Ret #1 legendary: 702k (+53k dps)

Havoc #5 legendary: 656k
Havoc #1 legendary: 699k (+43k dps)

Fire Mage #5 legendary: 590k
Fire Mage #1 legendary: 660k (+70k dps)

Obviously DHC/Katsuo's have strong procs...but so do all other BiS legendaries.

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Soooo.... is the buff to emperors capacitor still a thing ; I am not seeing it anywhere :/

[Vzz]

GREAT JOB BLIZZARD... Nerf the best Legendaries that aren't even remotely overpowered of a spec that is already mid-tier PVE DPS. Real smart move.

Way to piss off every PVE WW and make them seriously consider re-rolling to another spec or class.

Imagine dude what if you have no bis legendaries and want to play WW? The changes are justified. THINK before posting. They are already tweaking WWs skills, why whine?

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Imagine dude what if you have no bis legendaries and want to play WW? The changes are justified. THINK before posting. They are already tweaking WWs skills, why whine?

Then you can still play and do really fucking well. That was the fucking point with the we legendaries, and the boots made the gameplay more fluid. But certainly not OP in any way. I have literally never seen someone complaining that they are needed for ww. But nerfing them so hard that they go from BiS to probably one of the worse ones is a problem. Other classes have so much stronger legendaries and nothing is happening to them. What ww skills are they tweaking btw? Since WW still sucks in ST and is one of the worst classes when it comes to scaling with gear.
Ww (even MWs ) have been so fucking civil with every shit nerf we are getting but when the blue posts don't even fucking recognize our issues and point out a typo, then people will probably explode at that.

[InfernalDark]

Kids here just whine whenever they can.

[Vzz]

Then you can still play and do really fucking well. That was the fucking point with the we legendaries, and the boots made the gameplay more fluid. But certainly not OP in any way. I have literally never seen someone complaining that they are needed for ww. But nerfing them so hard that they go from BiS to probably one of the worse ones is a problem. Other classes have so much stronger legendaries and nothing is happening to them. What ww skills are they tweaking btw? Since WW still sucks in ST and is one of the worst classes when it comes to scaling with gear.
Ww (even MWs ) have been so fucking civil with every shit nerf we are getting but when the blue posts don't even fucking recognize our issues and point out a typo, then people will probably explode at that.

Check the main page or PTR. There are obvious issues and Blizzard knows it. Having boots and not having them is like a day and night in terms of gameplay, this shouldn't be like that. So the nerf is OK while tweaks are in progress. Give'em some time and post your feedback on PTR forums, to early to spread the panic.

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Check the main page or PTR. There are obvious issues and Blizzard knows it. Having boots and not having them is like a day and night in terms of gameplay, this shouldn't be like that. So the nerf is OK while tweaks are in progress. Give'em some time and post your feedback on PTR forums, to early to spread the panic.

Have you seen the recent blue post? There is tons of good posts on it and all of them have good anylysis on why this nerf is really bad.

[Eskendereya]

Imagine dude what if you have no bis legendaries and want to play WW? The changes are justified. THINK before posting. They are already tweaking WWs skills, why whine?

You mean imagine if I were a casual who blamed being bad at the game on not having the "right" Legendary like you. Something tells me you wouldn't think a 50% nerf to the WW Boots which is INSANE would be justified if you had them. I love how you used the word "tweaking" because you know Blizzard hasn't buffed a single thing for WWs as of yet that other Classes aren't getting relative to their specs 7.2. There are threads full of WWs who are unhappy with the changes.

The only thing Blizzard did was make WW Legendaries more evenly-mediocre than they already are instead of fixing the real issues with WWs in PVE.

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Then you can still play and do really fucking well. That was the fucking point with the we legendaries, and the boots made the gameplay more fluid. But certainly not OP in any way. I have literally never seen someone complaining that they are needed for ww. But nerfing them so hard that they go from BiS to probably one of the worse ones is a problem. Other classes have so much stronger legendaries and nothing is happening to them. What ww skills are they tweaking btw? Since WW still sucks in ST and is one of the worst classes when it comes to scaling with gear.
Ww (even MWs ) have been so fucking civil with every shit nerf we are getting but when the blue posts don't even fucking recognize our issues and point out a typo, then people will probably explode at that.

I cleared Mythic EN on my WW Monk without the Boots or Bracers and it wasn't close to unplayable at all. Instead of crying to Blizzard to nerf anything good or fun in the game because I didn't have them like a casual would do I just kept playing until I finally got a BiS.

[Kenjer]

Just going to roll a hunter, mage, pally or druid. Then i can be a favored child too.

[Lycanoth]

I stopped raiding on my WW recently, but I was curious if WW legendaries were that far out of line with other BiS legendaries so looked at the log data.

They really were not outliers, by heroic logs (if you go by mythic logs...there's even less difference).

Heroic NH logs:
WW #5 legendary: 644k dps
WW #1 legendary: 692k dps (+48k dps)

Assassination #5 legendary: 665k
Assassination #1 legendary: 735k (+70k dps)

Ret #5 legendary: 649k
Ret #1 legendary: 702k (+53k dps)

Havoc #5 legendary: 656k
Havoc #1 legendary: 699k (+43k dps)

Fire Mage #5 legendary: 590k
Fire Mage #1 legendary: 660k (+70k dps)

Obviously DHC/Katsuo's have strong procs...but so do all other BiS legendaries.

I really am not sure how the Rogue shoulders evaded nerfs this go around. The Sin boots have already been nerfed twice.

[Vzz]

You mean imagine if I were a casual who blamed being bad at the game on not having the "right" Legendary like you. Something tells me you wouldn't think a 50% nerf to the WW Boots which is INSANE would be justified if you had them. I love how you used the word "tweaking" because you know Blizzard hasn't buffed a single thing for WWs as of yet that other Classes aren't getting relative to their specs 7.2. There are threads full of WWs who are unhappy with the changes.

The only thing Blizzard did was make WW Legendaries more evenly-mediocre than they already are instead of fixing the real issues with WWs in PVE.

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I cleared Mythic EN on my WW Monk without the Boots or Bracers and it wasn't close to unplayable at all. Instead of crying to Blizzard to nerf anything good or fun in the game because I didn't have them like a casual would do I just kept playing until I finally got a BiS.

Gonna ruin your day, yes, i got the shoes. The feedback should include 7.2 changes, shouldn't be based on 7.1.5. Some people here don't even consider our NEW traits and tweaks to them. And yes, the PTR feedback is great. Let's hold the horses until 7.2. Blizzard tend to listen in Legion (FDK, UHDK buffed already, Arms AOE problem addressed in 7.2).

Calling someone casual because he has no luck to legs is kinda... stupid.