Monk, the forgotten class

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Why is it that Monks, the #1 martial artist who fights with their bodies (ie very agile and strong) is one of the two classes ingame (along with Warlocks) that have no innate way of avoiding fall damage?

Why is it that Monks, in the expansion that was based around spec identity (where classes like DK went from having very similar talents to having ALL unique talents between specs), have 4/7 nearly identical talent rows between ALL specs?

I could go on, but those are my main pet peeves with the class. If Blizzard isn't going to pay attention to the class, why add it in the first place?

[Cazz17]

Could you not use Transcendence like 20 yards from the ground and then Transfer to go back up slightly and only take damage for the 20 yard fall? If you see what I'm saying, as the spirit would spawn in the sky

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Could you not use Transcendence like 20 yards from the ground and then Transfer to go back up slightly and only take damage for the 20 yard fall? If you see what I'm saying, as the spirit would spawn in the sky

Nope, takes a while for the spirit to appear, which is long enough for you to move out of its range.

[longal]

Everyone is trying to forget about Pandalandia or so called MoP so they will ignore it for a time so ppl stop playing pandas and remove them from the game when the population drop to almost 0.

[Pandragon]

I suggested to Blizzard to make Zen Flight act like a Slow Fall when we are in zones that don't let us fly.

[Deleted]

Everyone is trying to forget about Pandalandia or so called MoP so they will ignore it for a time so ppl stop playing pandas and remove them from the game when the population drop to almost 0.

Fine, if we remove the 4 other races that are below them

[Bodakane]

Forgotten?

The 3 specs have never been better overall.

We have the biggest and most expansive Class Hall.

We have the best mobility of any class so fuck slow fall. If you want slow fall so bad, take engineering or.....you know...buy parachutes.

The only way we are getting screwed is in our class mount. But that's it.

[Deleted]

The 3 specs have never been better overall.

Would you list the 3 specs so I know what you're talking about

[Bodakane]

Would you list the 3 specs so I know what you're talking about

Funny....sigh.

[Dawon]

Forgotten?

The 3 specs have never been better overall.

We have the biggest and most expansive Class Hall.

We have the best mobility of any class so fuck slow fall. If you want slow fall so bad, take engineering or.....you know...buy parachutes.

The only way we are getting screwed is in our class mount. But that's it.

Have to agree, I'm not a monk but damn you guys looks like you're in a good spot. Our monkhealer does well in raids, our monk dps does crazy dmg. Only thing I haven't seen in action a lot is the tank, but I assume that's a pretty decent one as well.

Grats on a good expansion all over for you monks!

[Ealyssa]

I only find sad that the hidden passive of the WW weapon doesn't immune to damage.

What's the point of landing with anger on your opponent if you die in the process ? Could have been an epic "super hero landing" ! Opportunity missed

[krowbro]

Forgotten?

The 3 specs have never been better overall.

We have the biggest and most expansive Class Hall.

We have the best mobility of any class so fuck slow fall. If you want slow fall so bad, take engineering or.....you know...buy parachutes.

The only way we are getting screwed is in our class mount. But that's it.

Sometimes it is truly frightening to realise how completely idiotic some people are in this world, I would love for you to show a shred of *anything* to suggest Mistweavers and Windwalkers are at their 'peak' or have never been better overall? They are at the complete opposite spectrum if anything. Even Brewmasters were undoubtedly stronger than now in BRF (despite still being great currently).One of the most stupid things I've ever heard in a forum full of it, no wonder monks get no insightful feedback.

[Segus1992]

Forgotten?

The 3 specs have never been better overall.

We have the biggest and most expansive Class Hall.

We have the best mobility of any class so fuck slow fall. If you want slow fall so bad, take engineering or.....you know...buy parachutes.

The only way we are getting screwed is in our class mount. But that's it.

Opinions, what are they?

I'm talking deeper than a FotMers perspective. Roll should prevent fall damage, and even a FotMer can't be happy with how homogenuous our specs' talent trees are.

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I only find sad that the hidden passive of the WW weapon doesn't immune to damage.

What's the point of landing with anger on your opponent if you die in the process ? Could have been an epic "super hero landing" ! Opportunity missed

Right? A class with an artifact's hidden ability is related to falling that has zero fall damage mitigation. Which only ONE other class shares.

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We have the Bouncy racial, which reduces fall damage by half (if you're a Pandaren). And you can use Zen Flight when flying finally happens. But like someone above had said, I do wish Zen Flight worked as a slow fall until we are able to fly, since not everyone is a Pandaren.

Right now I just use Life Cocoon (Mistweaver).

I don't play a Pandaren, and it does fuckall for preventing lethal fall damage anyway.

Zen Cloud will be useful for all of one patch, and then flying disappears again (in Argus).

[Bodakane]

Sometimes it is truly frightening to realise how completely idiotic some people are in this world, I would love for you to show a shred of *anything* to suggest Mistweavers and Windwalkers are at their 'peak' or have never been better overall? They are at the complete opposite spectrum if anything. Even Brewmasters were undoubtedly stronger than now in BRF (despite still being great currently).One of the most stupid things I've ever heard in a forum full of it, no wonder monks get no insightful feedback.

You know, I'll give you that BrM were stronger last expansion, but they aren't terrible now.

As far as the other two....you are straight up, out of your damn mind if you think MW or WW have been better than they are this xpac.

[Segus1992]

You know, I'll give you that BrM were stronger last expansion, but they aren't terrible now.

As far as the other two....you are straight up, out of your damn mind if you think MW or WW have been better than they are this xpac.

Numbers on abilities =! not forgotten.

[Bodakane]

Numbers on abilities =! not forgotten.

Ok....then your definition of the word forgotten is your own and you shouldn;t expect other people to be held accountable by your own personal definition of words.

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Ok....then your definition of the word forgotten is your own and you shouldn;t expect other people to be held accountable by your own personal definition of words.

Yep, sorry for thinking people had more brain capacity than "high number mean good!".

I mean, I could also point out that the OP states pretty clearly what I was referring to, but I guess you didn't read that?

[Bodakane]

Yep, sorry for thinking people had more brain capacity than "high number mean good!".

I mean, I could also point out that the OP states pretty clearly what I was referring to, but I guess you didn't read that?

WTF. I'm not even talking about high numbers. I'm talking about how the classes were redesigned like virtually every other class. The specs are actually fun to play AND do decent numbers.

The problem is you could have just said, "Changes I'd like to see", but instead you went full wowtard cry baby and acted like monks are literally forgotten because they don't have..........a slow fall?!?!?!?! Then you question my intelligence.....It's fucking insane.

[taek]

I don’t think there’s any doubt Monk is very low on Blizzard’s priority list.

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[Thelxi]

Could you not use Transcendence like 20 yards from the ground and then Transfer to go back up slightly and only take damage for the 20 yard fall? If you see what I'm saying, as the spirit would spawn in the sky

I have never managed to do this. Maybe on a perfect pc with perfect internet..