Metamorphosis 2 min CD

[GetCrunk]

Hi.
I have the CoF Trinket but no sholders, i have the option to put 2 relics to reduce the cd + 1 talent point in the new meta trait and i will get at 2 min CD +/- 5 seconds
the relics i have to change
http://imgur.com/a/ebzZx



Is it worth to change them ?

Ps: I don't know how to sim relics.

[Rorixis]

You can use wowhead or an addon to find the ID of a relic - for examlpe chaos crit damage heroic is 140824: www.google.dk/search?q=140824+wowhead and then replace it in your sim with those relics to compare.

[Lostprophet]

the 880 to 890 will be siming nearly the same
but the 890 to 895 will be a minor dps loss.

+ CoF is not a good trinket and you should avoid it if you can.

Caith made a very good Post about that: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1...t-73H_0SU/edit

His final Note is: The lowest CD achievable without using Delusions is 2:28 (3 Relics + CoF).

This is with 4 Points in Traits and 3 Relics. Nowhere near 2min. My advice is: don't got for it. It will also take a while until you have 4 points in the traits: http://i.imgur.com/cjMpSFQ.jpg (ye you could skill it 2nd but not worth it imo)

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If you would have Delusions, you could get to 2min with anger and 2 relics but when Tomb of Sargeras hits you'll most likely want to have 2set T19 and 4set T20. In that case you would have to ditch Delusions. But they might disable T19 Boni somehow...

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the 880 to 890 will be siming nearly the same
but the 890 to 895 will be a minor dps loss.

+ CoF is not a good trinket and you should avoid it if you can.

Caith made a very good Post about that: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1...t-73H_0SU/edit

His final Note is: The lowest CD achievable without using Delusions is 2:28 (3 Relics + CoF).

This is with 4 Points in Traits and 3 Relics. Nowhere near 2min. My advice is: don't got for it. It will also take a while until you have 4 points in the traits: http://i.imgur.com/cjMpSFQ.jpg (ye you could skill it 2nd but not worth it imo)

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If you would have Delusions, you could get to 2min with anger and 2 relics but when Tomb of Sargeras hits you'll most likely want to have 2set T19 and 4set T20. In that case you would have to ditch Delusions. But they might disable T19 Boni somehow...

Completely agree. I ran AotHG + KJ trinket as legendaries and got the shoulders yesterday.

Since I had a 905 ilevel Shadow relic with Meta CD reduction in my bags and a 905 CoF, I now use DoG + CoF. It puts my Meta comfortably at 2 minutes or under (even without heroism and with some AA downtime)...but it still is only a 10k DPS gain over a 4 minute Meta.

So unless you have the (near) perfect setup with high CoF and good relics (I got tichondrius mythic x2 and Botanist mythic x1) and DoG, it won't be worth it. Especially since small future changes to set-requirements or somethign else will fuck up the setup.

[TyleRage]

I found that going for a build that uses 2 meta relics and DoG is very good. It gives you a roughly 2min 20 sec Meta and you don't waste a trinket slot on a CoF. I'd say you should give that a shot. It was very effective on fights like Mythic Botanist

[ehxy]

CoF is just pure garbage it makes for a terrible opener climax plateau compared to non-cof users.

I suggest getting rid of it asap it is the poor man's dog that still requires dog to perform well.

[Occar]

I picked up the DoG today. It really just doesn't fit in. DoG+belt is worse than KBW+belt. I don't have AotHG yet.