Why do people hate Karl Marx so much?

[Aeula]

Meh he was just a dude. He couldn't have known what his ideas would lead to.

However those ideas did lead to others creating one of the most disgusting philosophy's of all time. I don't blame Marx for that though, like I said I doubt he realised the damage it would cause.

[Vargur]

Go to Venezuela or Cuba and find out by yourself.

They're as communist as China is, e.g. not at all. Funny how you didn't mention China (or North Korea) though.

[Z-Man]

His fundamental argument regarding the tension between the worker class and buisness owners (the 1%) is very true. We are seeing a form of a proletariat uprising in the US today, with an upsurge in populism in the last election and in movements like the Occupy movement.

Except the US proletariat uprising is focused on destroying the proletariat and handing the means of production over to the bankers and state-sponsored churches. Once the proletariat are out of the way, it will be a bourgeoisie paradise for everyone else.

[THE Bigzoman]

But see again thats not all of Marx. Communism is not actually Marx idea. Marx actually gave very little insight on replacing capitalism. Which if you read all of is work is the sad part, mabye if he was alive longer or live in a more modern era he would have pushed his ideas into a system, but he never did. People pin Communism on his back because he was explaining the class combat witin capitalism and socialism system to appease them.

Here's how i know you didn't actually read Marx as much as you claimed.

[Deleted]

Then explain why older wine has more value than newer wine?

Because people are easily conned?

[NED funded]

Because people are easily conned?

Doesn't thay defie Marx's idea?

[Deleted]

Why should anyone hate Karl Marx?

He was a great philosopher.

[JohnBrown1917]

Why should anyone hate Karl Marx?

He was a great philosopher.

Liberals(classic, not centre/social ones) and the right wingers on this forum seem to disagree, I think they just don't like anybody who is on the economic left.

[Independent voter]

Marx was an early founder of a soft science that isn't that different from other soft sciences like sociology. Math never changes or rarely changes but soft science changes all the time, it's why Marx has little to do with today's economics just like Freud has little to do with today's psychology.

[Deleted]

Karl Marx undoubtly changed the minds of the rich to share more money with their employees.

As they would burn his house otherwise.

The social market economy we have in germany exists thanks to social democracy. And social democracy was born mainly from Marx ideas and theories.

[Dicedspam]

Marx utopian philosophy is beyond flawed. Humans won't change their selfish behavior in order for a community to succeed. Someone would always feel unequal or unmotivated. For example, why does Bob get to count beans while I have to dig holes.

[Deleted]

Marx kinda reminds me of Sargeras, he wants to destroy certain unfair aspects of life in order to end human exploitation.

I do love his spirit and passion and admire his balls, he is a figure that inspired and forged me to what i am today, he contributed to developing my social consciousness and there’s no way i can blame him for the bullshit from a bunch of paladins.

But i choose to see communism as yet another stage of capitalism, the act of taking a risk to invest in something, from social providences to people, from ideas to products. Because letting myself be oppressed with the idea that capitalism is always about exploitation of the weak is yet another tyranny of the mind, and Marx was all about liberating the oppressed.

[Celista]

Except the US proletariat uprising is focused on destroying the proletariat and handing the means of production over to the bankers and state-sponsored churches. Once the proletariat are out of the way, it will be a bourgeoisie paradise for everyone else.

Well maybe half of them. It's funny how people adopt ideas that are against their best interest.

[Slant]

It seems people know so little about him by now and everytime i hear anybody talk about him, they talk about USSR... huh what? It seems so few people have read anything of him and the ones that did mostly read his early young inflamatory stuff about socialism. I read all of Marx during college. His later work is actually mostly about capitalism, most of it it still applicable now.

Karl Marx toward the end of his life was against forms of violent revolution against capitalism. So linking him to the USSR is just ass?

PS for this forum. Karl Marx actually envisioned Globalism as the largest form of capitalism (which it is) so its kinda ironic to see donald trump followers in agreement with Marx.

Nobody hates Marx. Many people hate Marxists, because they adopt a flawed set of theories too readily (and evolved it into communism).

[Waynhim]

Marx is right on paper, but his post-revolution thoughts doesn't factor in human greed/flaws. I think most communist dictators started out as idealists, but once they got the taste for power their baser instincts kicked in.

[Deleted]

Marx is right on paper, but his post-revolution thoughts doesn't factor in human greed/flaws. I think most communist dictators started out as idealists, but once they got the taste for power their baser instincts kicked in.

From my POV, the communist dictators never were communist, just those abusing the idea.

[Neviannn]

Freud has little to do with today's psychology.

hahaha wtf

[Deleted]

Doesn't thay defie Marx's idea?

You need to narrow it down, Marx had more than one idea.

[NED funded]

You need to narrow it down, Marx had more than one idea.

Labor theory of value.

[Kuntantee]

Never seen in my life someone who hates Karl Marx, including die-hard anti-commies.