Sweden terror as truck RAMS into crowds in central Stockholm - many casualties

[W1sp]

Just saw a pic on facebook from the scene witha person who has been totaly split in half, as in the legs were not connected to the rest of the body

[Deleted]

Yes, you realized how crazy the intake was and closed it, but the damage is done.

So Sweden shall solve the refugee problem as Denmark? Escort them to the border and pretend that they do not see the refugee and compliment themselves now they are not our problem but our neighbour....

[Queen of Hamsters]

Well as long as Germany keeps their control you would [probably] be fine anyhow.. Few really make it to the Danish border these days

Unless she stands up and contributes with another humanitarian self-fellatio, one can at least hope.

Our government is still handling shit the wrong way with returning ISIS-fighters, deporting those that are not refugees/commit crimes and so on. They're wearing silk gloves when they should be wearing armor-plated gauntlets with built-in brass knuckles.

[Candy Cough]

And the liberals laughed at trump when he said there was a problem in sweden, now we've had islamists causing problems in sweden twice now in a very short timeframe. The blood is on your hand left. Thinking they're so much better than everyone else and that there is no evil in anyone, terrorism is caused by spineless politicians wanting to be so damn political correct all the time they open their arms to everyone at the fear of being stamped racist. Fun fact, Islam is not a race but a religion. Liberals are racist for classifying muslims as the brown skinned people coming from the middle east.

[Queen of Hamsters]

And the liberals laughed at trump when he said there was a problem in sweden, now we've had islamists causing problems in sweden twice now in a very short timeframe. The blood is on your hand left. Thinking they're so much better than everyone else and that there is no evil in anyone, terrorism is caused by spineless politicians wanting to be so damn political correct all the time they open their arms to everyone at the fear of being stamped racist.

The US has bigger issues, they shouldn't point any fingers at any other country when it comes to national security and terrorism.

And things happening AFTER Trump's statement being turned around to give him credit as "being right", is hilarious.

[Eazy]

I wanted to say "terror attacks 'part and parcel' of living in a major city".

But I don't want to sound like a fool, because this isn't normal. Only cowards are using such a way to kill innocent people and they deserve death penalty. No matter if they believe in Allah, Buddha, Jesus, Anubis or whatever.

[Deleted]

So Sweden shall solve the refugee problem as Denmark? Escort them to the border and pretend that they do not see the refugee and compliment themselves now they are not our problem but our neighbour....

Nobody should ever take that amount in.

Its naive and will destroy your society in due time to pressure.

We dont have a responsibility to take young healthy men in

[Candy Cough]

The US has bigger issues, they shouldn't point any fingers at any other country when it comes to national security.

I dont think Europe is in any position to tell who has issues when the death tolls has become higher in europe even after banning guns which everyone cries about.

[Queen of Hamsters]

I dont think Europe is in any position to tell who has issues when the death tolls has become higher in europe even after banning guns which everyone cries about.

Europe = a collection of many different countries.

The US = A collection of states within one country. I'm fairly sure US still tops the list on people killed in violent crimes in the west. Just sayin'.

[Kalis]

To sum up :

guy1: That's it Sweden, we'll build a wall, we don't want terror here.
guy2: But Norway, you've already had a terrorist attack, the worst one in scandinavia. Btw, not muslim, but right wing.
me: yeah, right wingers dismiss that, because it hurts their case
guy3: no no no, that's totally different, Brevik had political targets, not innocent civilians.

Hence the discussion.
I hate terrorism, and I hate the hypocrites that try to marginalize Breviks actions and at the same time point their fingers at every immigrant every time some asshole attacks civilians.

Right wingers do not dismiss Breivik, they realise that a one off incident five years ago is not particularly relevant to frequent attacks today.

How long ago was it that an Islamist killed people in a high profile terrorist attack in Europe before this one? Five years? No, it was a fortnight ago in London.

14 July 2016, Nice, France: A man drove a lorry for 2km (1.2 miles) through a large crowd gathered to watch Bastille Day fireworks in Nice. Eighty-six people were killed, and more than 300 injured.
19 December 2016, Berlin, Germany: The attack in Berlin killed 12 people and injured 49, when a man drove a lorry through the crowded Breitscheidplatz Christmas market. So-called Islamic State said one of its "soldiers" carried out the attack.
22 March 2017, London, United Kingdom: Six people died and at least 50 were injured when a car mounted the pavement on London's Westminster bridge and drove at high speed through pedestrians. The attacker then entered the parliament complex on foot and fatally stabbed a police officer, before being shot.


You will always have terrorism, that is unavoidable, but when they are frequently coming from a particular demographic with a similar M.O., then you need to stop with the "But what about..." attempts to deflect and try to focus on the issue at hand.

[Deleted]

Swedes are saying it was a terrorist attack? Can't be. Since when are Swedes conspiracy theorists?
I'm sure it was simply a mentally unstable individual. Nothing to do with terrorism. Endus, could you please ensure that nobody talks about terrorism? Conspiracy theories are against the rules of this forum. You usually like to do that.

[Queen of Hamsters]

You will always have terrorism, that is unavoidable, but when they are frequently coming from a particular demographic with a similar M.O., then you need to stop with the "But what about..." attempts to deflect and try to focus on the issue at hand.

And the issue at hand still doesn't equate to "we should kick everyone out for the actions of the few", which is what the far-right always comes back to which also muddles the waters. The left gets wind in their sails about how anyone critical about how things are being handled, is a far-right scum deep down.

Take for instance the Syrian refugees. They've fled from shit FAR worse than anything we've seen in Europe since WWII, yet they're lumped into the same category as people carrying out terrorist attacks just because they're Muslims.

[Candy Cough]

To sum up :

guy1: That's it Sweden, we'll build a wall, we don't want terror here.
guy2: But Norway, you've already had a terrorist attack, the worst one in scandinavia. Btw, not muslim, but right wing.
me: yeah, right wingers dismiss that, because it hurts their case
guy3: no no no, that's totally different, Brevik had political targets, not innocent civilians.

Hence the discussion.
I hate terrorism, and I hate the hypocrites that try to marginalize Breviks actions and at the same time point their fingers at every immigrant every time some asshole attacks civilians.

A terror attack by a pagan nearly 6 years ago. We've had 3 terror attacks committed by muslims in less than a month. Two wrong dont make one right. Its as retarded as brining up the crusades which happened thousands of years ago and somehow making them relevant to today. Why not still blame germany for what they did during world war 2 while youre at it?

[Deleted]

And the issue at hand still doesn't equate to "we should kick everyone out for the actions of the few", which is what the far-right always comes back to.

Take for instance the Syrian refugees. They've fled from shit FAR worse than anything we've seen in Europe since WWII, yet they're lumped into the same category as people carrying out terrorist attacks just because they're Muslims.

The syrian refugees have brought a lot of trouble that's not terrorism.

[Queen of Hamsters]

The syrian refugees have brought a lot of trouble beyond terrorism.

Such as? Trouble equating crime in this case, or just costs and logistics? Sorry, I don't see such "trouble" as a reason for turning away people fleeing from the acts carried out by Assad.

Or are you holding the Syrians responsible for Afghani, Morockans and other people coming as economical immigrants or even cells from terrorist organisations?

[Deleted]

Such as? Trouble equating crime in this case, or just costs and logistics? Sorry, I don't see such "trouble" as a reason for turning away people fleeing from the acts carried out by Assad.

No reason why we should subject ourself to that just because of some bleeding hearts.

[Kalis]

And the issue at hand still doesn't equate to "we should kick everyone out for the actions of the few", which is what the far-right always comes back to.

Take for instance the Syrian refugees. They've fled from shit FAR worse than anything we've seen in Europe since WWII, yet they're lumped into the same category as people carrying out terrorist attacks just because they're Muslims.

The issue with many Syrian refugees is that they are a) not all Syrian, b) not all refugees and, most importantly, c) bringing in cultural practices that are anathema to contemporary Western societal norms.

People lump the problems in together, because they are issues we should not be having in the West and they come from a particular demographic.

[Deleted]

strange seeing as i've seen halal stuff at ICA.

There are Swedish Halal butchers that follows Swedish laws. The only difference is the bolt-gun to the head before sliting the throat, which is technically allowed for Halal. Halal isn't this occult ritual to make animals suffer, it's actually meant to be the exact opposite.

[Queen of Hamsters]

No reason why we should subject ourself to that just because of some bleeding hearts.

If you don't like living in a country where human lives are valued, you can always move. I hear Syria is a prime country for such attitudes right now.

[Deleted]

If you don't like living in a country where human lives are valued, you can always move. I hear Syria is a prime country for such attitudes right now.

Human lives are clearly not valued in Sweden when we take in people who destroy other peoples lives.