View Poll Results: Should undocumented individuals who have lived in the U.S. for 20 years be deported?

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  • Yes! Get them out!

    18 40.91%
  • No. We need a path to citizenship for them.

    26 59.09%
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  1. #21
    Quote Originally Posted by Tennisace View Post
    Why isn't there a path? I'm pretty sure I've read of some people living in the shadows and then eventually getting their green card.
    It's funny how you keep telling us we should take all of them when your country isn't willing to take illegal mexican immigrants either.
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    Woman votes for Trump and now her husband is getting deported. Applicable:
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    Quote Originally Posted by mayhem008 View Post
    It's funny how you keep telling us we should take all of them when your country isn't willing to take illegal mexican immigrants either.
    They're your responsibility. There is 12 million of them living down south. They deserve to be treated like humans.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tennisace View Post
    They're your responsibility. There is 12 million of them living down south. They deserve to be treated like humans.
    Why do you hate mexicans?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tennisace View Post
    They're your responsibility. There is 12 million of them living down south. They deserve to be treated like humans.
    They can live a bit further South and their own countries can treat them like humans.

  6. #26
    Quote Originally Posted by Calfredd View Post
    I don't know if it's a liberal thing rather than jumping through 50 different flaming hoops.
    This what the guy said:

    Because there's barely a path for anyone outside of the wealthy
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tennisace View Post
    They're your responsibility. There is 12 million of them living down south. They deserve to be treated like humans.
    I never knew Canadians were so racist. Canada is nation of immigrants and they should accept those that are looking for a better life.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tennisace View Post
    They're your responsibility. There is 12 million of them living down south. They deserve to be treated like humans.
    Just so you know they're south of your country too. They deserve to be treated like humans by Canadians. I mean Canada is the poster nation for diversity right?
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    tennisace you should take them in.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Masark View Post
    Because there's barely a path for anyone outside of the wealthy.

    All that's nice and dandy, but it doesn't address the fact that if legal immigration was really easy, we would still need a hard cap on the # let in as to not overwhelm the country. Even if you made it so legal immigration was a matter of days, the net result would and should be about the same.

    Something worth mentioning is that when we take the "good" immigrants it also hurts the countries they are moving from. If we take well-educated, hard-working people, we are literally damaging those 2nd/3rd-world countries.

    Immigration is more complicated than saying "we should make the system fast and easy." There are consequences for the path we choose, no matter the path.

  10. #30
    The nice guy story doesn't overcome the story of how he is an idiot. If he applied through his marriage he'd be a citizen by now. Illegals make it more difficult than it is when they come here with their sob stories rather than getting their shit together.

  11. #31
    Quote Originally Posted by breadisfunny View Post
    tennisace you should take them in.
    He doesn't like Mexicans. Though I'm sure he goes to Taco Bell all the time.
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    I think there should be some kind of law that makes everyone who hasn't left a country within 5 years into a legal permanent resident. Someone living in a country for so long, legally or illegally, becomes a part of the society, a part of the economy; just throwing them out will deal a lot of damage both to them, and to the society.
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  13. #33
    For me it depends.. Are they trouble makers? Drug dealers etcetc.. If not I say leave them be. If so? Ship their asses out.

  14. #34
    At around 20 years? Stop being silly, he has more than likely paid for his "stay" a long time ago, seeing as he is a business owner, thus pays taxes.
    There are cases when the exceptions are made to the law, you will not always be right by blindly clinging to it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tennisace View Post
    https://www.nytimes.com/2017/04/07/u...-article-click

    How awful! This is what some people voted for folks.
    Including the man's wife. Nice job lady. Vote for a President who has your husband deported. Good grief!
    Oh man, the center leaning conservative regret has been so big with this presidency. If the Republicans ever recover from this disaster (LOL) their shot at majority anything is going to ride on the incompetency of Trump's first 100 days for the next 20 years.
    There are no worse scum in this world than fascists, rebels and political hypocrites.
    Donald Trump is only like Hitler because of the fact he's losing this war on all fronts.
    Apparently condemning a fascist ideology is the same as being fascist. And who the fuck are you to say I can't be fascist against fascist ideologies?
    If merit was the only dividing factor in the human race, then everyone on Earth would be pretty damn equal.

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    Quote Originally Posted by May90 View Post
    I think there should be some kind of law that makes everyone who hasn't left a country within 5 years into a legal permanent resident. Someone living in a country for so long, legally or illegally, becomes a part of the society, a part of the economy; just throwing them out will deal a lot of damage both to them, and to the society.
    Without any type of background check to what they have been doing here for 5 years?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Easo View Post
    At around 20 years? Stop being silly, he has more than likely paid for his "stay" a long time ago, seeing as he is a business owner, thus pays taxes.
    There are cases when the exceptions are made to the law, you will not always be right by blindly clinging to it.
    At around 20 years you would think he would get some type of permanent residence on his own. All he has is a sob story like the rest.

    In related news 6700 people got their citizenship two months ago in LA.

    http://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/l...215-story.html
    Last edited by Barnabas; 2017-04-09 at 01:37 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ahovv View Post
    All that's nice and dandy, but it doesn't address the fact that if legal immigration was really easy, we would still need a hard cap on the # let in as to not overwhelm the country. Even if you made it so legal immigration was a matter of days, the net result would and should be about the same.

    Something worth mentioning is that when we take the "good" immigrants it also hurts the countries they are moving from. If we take well-educated, hard-working people, we are literally damaging those 2nd/3rd-world countries.

    Immigration is more complicated than saying "we should make the system fast and easy." There are consequences for the path we choose, no matter the path.
    It was never a problem in the past. Immigration to the US used to be "show up at Ellis Island, wait in a line and get checked out, and congrats, you're a US citizen." And somehow all the "filthy Irish" and "papist Italians" didn't ruin the country back then.


    Again, you're missing the point of why the Immigration system is currently a bureaucratic nightmare. It's because many conservative politicians likely want it that way. Why fix a system when you stand to profit more by complaining about how it's broken and that people need you to elect them to protect them from it?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Calfredd View Post
    You mean the green card he applied for twice?
    You people seem to miss the part where it says applies, not received. If you liberals apply for your much needed EI benefits but are denied, do you just walk into the government and take it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by analmoose View Post
    You people seem to miss the part where it says applies, not received. If you liberals apply for your much needed EI benefits but are denied, do you just walk into the government and take it?
    So then he should have just buggered off and left his wife, kids, and business behind?

    You can't say "well he should have tried to do it the right way!" if he tried to do it the right way and the system failed him.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaleredar View Post
    It was never a problem in the past. Immigration to the US used to be "show up at Ellis Island, wait in a line and get checked out, and congrats, you're a US citizen." And somehow all the "filthy Irish" and "papist Italians" didn't ruin the country back then.


    Again, you're missing the point of why the Immigration system is currently a bureaucratic nightmare. It's because many conservative politicians likely want it that way. Why fix a system when you stand to profit more by complaining about how it's broken and that people need you to elect them to protect them from it?
    This guy didnt even do that. He just crossed the border 20 years ago and said fuck you to our immigration system altogether. He could've crossed got married and applied for permanent residency like many other people have?

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