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    Way too early for the DNC. Those who want a Warren type obviously didn't learn anything from 2016. She can't boast a single accomplishment as a Senator. If Biden wants it, it's his and would give the Democrats their best shot. Anyone far left from the Ellison/Sanders wing is DOA. Identity politics and speeches about bathrooms won't bring PA, Mi or WI back into the blue column. San Francisco values wont win the Democrats the White House. California will go blue regardless, so no effort should be spent catering to Hollywood.
    Uh, Sanders was totally about economy, jobs, and the middle class more than identity politics which is why he had major upsets in places like Mi where Hillary was expected to beat him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheWalkinDude View Post
    Way too early for the DNC. Those who want a Warren type obviously didn't learn anything from 2016. She can't boast a single accomplishment as a Senator. If Biden wants it, it's his and would give the Democrats their best shot. Anyone far left from the Ellison/Sanders wing is DOA. Identity politics and speeches about bathrooms won't bring PA, Mi or WI back into the blue column. San Francisco values wont win the Democrats the White House. California will go blue regardless, so no effort should be spent catering to Hollywood.
    What exactly about the election, should lead democrats to believe that experience in the senate, be it successful or not... or any experience in government... is actually needed? If anything, it should have them clamoring to get the Rock to run... I'm saying they need to go after Paris Hilton. What does Trump have that she doesn't?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sesshou View Post
    Uh, Sanders was totally about economy, jobs, and the middle class more than identity politics which is why he had major upsets in places like Mi where Hillary was expected to beat him.
    Sanders had some good concepts, but he would be close to 80 if he runs in 2020. Too old. My prediction is he will not run again. But, I could be wrong.

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    A spineless, centrist democrat dependent one triangulation, "Voters have nowhere else to go!" and "noway we can lose!" attitude will either face off against Trump or Pence, and be crushed. Democrats will then go into a deathspiral of panic and conspiracy theories to explain away that loss.
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    This is assuming Trump will respect the peaceful transfer of power when his time is up whether it's in his first or second term. I suspect he'll enact some kind of Emperor of Mankind title on himself by then and purge the heretics who oppose him.
    A soldier will fight long and hard for a bit of colored ribbon.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Theodarzna View Post
    A spineless, centrist democrat dependent one triangulation, "Voters have nowhere else to go!" and "noway we can lose!" attitude will either face off against Trump or Pence, and be crushed. Democrats will then go into a deathspiral of panic and conspiracy theories to explain away that loss.
    You say this as though what Trump can actually accomplish has less to do with it than whoever the Dems put up.

    Whoever it is will almost certainly be a more favorable candidate than Hillary Clinton. If Trump doesn't have any major accomplishments to point to, people are going to stop buying in.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gestopft View Post
    If Trump doesn't have any major accomplishments to point to, people are going to stop buying in.
    He's getting mad at Canada about milk so lets see how that plays out I guess...
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheWalkinDude View Post
    But Elizabeth Warren is way too out there. Nothing she wants would get through Congress and few are even sound for America in this time. She's the extreme of the party, and you think she's going to appeal to middle America? That's why Trump won. He appealed to the Everyman. The guy who didn't grow up downtown in a major city. The guy working a blue collar job 40+ hours a week to keep their family fed and housed, who thinks Politicians should be talking about their issues and how their healthcare premiums rised and coverage dropped instead of some Syrian or entitled 22 year old that doesn't get called the madeup pronoun they read on buzzfeed yesterday and their inability to afford an apartment downtown in NYC. There's never going to be a Bernie revolution because it's not a realistic outcome.
    Sanders spoke better to the average worker than Hillary ever could, just given her reputation. His campaign was a primarily economic message- farther to the left, yes, but far less about "identity politics" than the establishment Democrats'

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    Trump was already extremely unpopular. That's only gotten worse after all the fucking up since January. Another few years of this and anyone connected to his administration will be toxic. You can forget Pence accomplishing anything in 2020. A conservative that hasn't/won't give much support to Trump will have to show up and be able to legitimately claim he didn't agree with how Trump ran things. Anyone that is now excusing all of the failures and hypocrisy won't have credibility.

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    Republicans: worst possible choice, who will win.
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    Kanye west.

    Trump has demonstrated that personalities like him can gain momentum.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Allybeboba View Post
    The DNC will push for a woman candidate. Either that or a minority.
    Ideally both.
    Yep. They'll be playing #Vagina2020 and/or #Minority2020 card, probably both. And they'll lose because they don't realize that normal people despise that sort of bullshit.

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    Hopefully democrats will put up a progressive this time instead of shafting the progressive candidate for another right wing corporatist.

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    We won't ever see a 'regular' candidate again

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    Quote Originally Posted by Allybeboba View Post
    The DNC will push for a woman candidate. Either that or a minority.
    Ideally both.
    A mexican transexual perhaps.

    I have to agree with most posters here though. It will probably come down to TV/Movie stars battling for the win. This election will be live-streamed 24/7 and monetized all the way through. The USA will finally manage to turn the elections into a Reality Show.

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    I have to agree with most posters here though. It will probably come down to TV/Movie stars battling for the win. This election will be live-streamed 24/7 and monetized all the way through. The USA will finally manage to turn the elections into a Reality Show.
    Idiocracy will turn into documentary.

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    Dems: Cory Booker or Julian Castro
    GOP: Assuming Trump does not complete his term and Pence turns down a bid, Paul Ryan, Rand Paul or Marco Rubio
    Libertarian: Someone other than Gary Johnson, he went a little crazy towards the end of the 2016 election and it cost him some votes.
    Green: I'd love to see a really strong and likable candidate here, the party needs a positive boost after Jill Stein's recent antics.

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    Idiocracy will turn into documentary.
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    can you leftist twits just fucking admit that quantum mechanics has fuck all to do with thermodynamics, that shit is just a pose?

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