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    That awkward moment when your president wants to be a king after using king as an insult about the last president for the past 8 years straight.

    He's really jealous of Erdogan I bet.
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    I'll give him this, our government's way of operating is quite inefficient. It probably comes with having to manage +300 million civilians but it is taking very long for the U.S. to catch up with other 1st world countries on certain policies (i.e. gay marriage, marijuana legalization, etc). The process of altering our constitution and rectifying outdated laws is rather cumbersome IMO.

    Having said that, this is the usual Trump whining that we're going to hear for some time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaleredar View Post
    And the validity of the constitution in this day and age is not for the president to decide alone.

    If it were, republicans shouldn't have been raising all the fuss about the "Obama stealing their guns" fluff that they made up to scare their voting base.
    I agree 100% on the bold part.

    I think Obama, if he could have, would have made it much more difficult to obtain a firearm. And a Constitutional right should not be hard to exercise. I do agree some restrictions need to be in place. Just as there are for many other Constitutional rights, such as free of speech and religion. But I think all states have some restrictions in place.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Noxx79 View Post
    Ad hominems are the favorite weapon of the feeble minded. Think about that really hard. You can do it. I know you can.
    There's a difference between an Ad hominem and an insult. One is an illogical attempt to invalidate an argument. The other is just being a dick. See if you can sort that out. You can do it. I know you can.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 10thMountainMan View Post
    There's a difference between an Ad hominem and an insult. One is an illogical attempt to invalidate an argument. The other is just being a dick. See if you can sort that out. You can do it. I know you can.
    You are trying to invalidate their argument. Sorry bud, but you're not as clever as you think you are.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Felya View Post
    You are complaining that people only pick on this, when their political opponents do it and that you hope they continue in the future.
    Not what I said. Try reading it again. I pointed out that the out that Obama did the same thing, and that liberals were noticeably silent on it then. I then joked that I appreciated the newfound appreciation among liberals for constitutional limits on executive power, but admitted I have serious doubts that it would remain when they gained power again.


    Quote Originally Posted by Felya View Post
    You have not said anything about your position on what Trump said. You are only complaining that a political side didn't do it before. If you do believe this is consistent across parties, then bitch about it when it happens. Otherwise... well... aren't you saying that liberals ignored Obama, but are now picking on Trump? In 3 posts now, you have ignored what Trump said in the OP, to bitch about liberals. Do you see what you are doing?
    You're a bit incoherent but I'll try to address what I think you're driving at. I didn't specifically rebuke Trump, but I did say both sides of the political divide are all about executive limitations when they don't control the executive branch but then turn around and call the other side obstructionist as soon as the chair is theirs. A reasonable and honest reader could then infer that I find it just as deplorable when Trump does it as when Obama or anyone else does it. I really should not have to spell that out for you but there it is. Also, if you think bitching on the internet solves anything you're gravely mistaken. I'm here because I find it entertaining. You should be too. If you've grander designes on your efforts here you're due for some serious disappointment.


    Quote Originally Posted by Felya View Post
    I am not saying you are Trump supporter... I am saying you are ignoring Trump to bitch about liberals. Which is the exact thing you are bitching about. You are what you are complaining about.
    I'm not bitching about them. I'm making fun of them. Tone can be hard to convey in text so I'll give you a mulligan on this one.

    Quote Originally Posted by Felya View Post
    lol His reply containing that, has "Calm the fuck down princess" at the start. There is 0 self awareness here...
    I'll tell you the same thing I told the other guy, there is a difference between an Ad hominem and an insult. One attempts to attack the credibility of the other's argument. The other is just being a dick because its fun. I called you a princess because you're pouring way too much emotion into these posts. It doesn't have anything to do with the substance of your argument. Don't worry, you're not alone in making that little mistake. Logic is fun. Glad to be of help.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Noxx79 View Post
    You are trying to invalidate their argument. Sorry bud, but you're not as clever as you think you are.
    I'm pretty sure I'm the authority on what my intentions are, and your reply here can be summed up as "nuh uh!" so forgive me if I don't value your opinion on what is clever or not.
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    When you run out of people to blame, you start blaming the one thing Sacred in this country, our Constitution.

    Good Luck with that.

    Dear Trumpers: At which point do y'all wake up and realize you've been conned? No, really? Like, are you almost there yet?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shefu View Post
    When you run out of people to blame, you start blaming the one thing Sacred in this country, our Constitution.

    Good Luck with that.

    Dear Trumpers: At which point do y'all wake up and realize you've been conned? No, really? Like, are you almost there yet?
    I'm pretty sure most of his base isn't really paying attention to what he does or doesn't do. I could be wrong though. It's just my very non-scientific appraisal of their attention spans.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shadowferal View Post
    He blamed the constitutional checks and balances built in to US governance. “It’s a very rough system,” he said. “It’s an archaic system … It’s really a bad thing for the country.”

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    Most Trump supporters are against the US Constitution... not surprised at this.
    Really because it's exactly what the Democrats have been complaining about since forever.

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    I can't even... someone please get this cowardly wretch out of my government. That there are millions of ignorant fools blindly supporting this pitiful excuse for a man is making me physically sick right now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lockedout View Post
    Really because it's exactly what the Democrats have been complaining about since forever.
    The liberals newfound love of the Constitution is genuine and will be lasting. You're awful for bringing up their previous positions, policies, and statements as evidince of their hypocracy and therefore are a hypocrite yourself for not first lambasting Trump, because criticism of Trump is the gold standard for moral and intellectual fiber.

    I just wanted to get all of their arguments out of the way for you in one shot so it wouldn't take as long.

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    Not sure why, but for some reason I feel this level of response is most appropriate: lol git gud scrub

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    Quote Originally Posted by 10thMountainMan View Post
    The liberals newfound love of the Constitution is genuine and will be lasting. You're awful for bringing up their previous positions, policies, and statements as evidince of their hypocracy and therefore are a hypocrite yourself for not first lambasting Trump, because criticism of Trump is the gold standard for moral and intellectual fiber.

    I just wanted to get all of their arguments out of the way for you in one shot so it wouldn't take as long.
    It's getting late so I don't want to wait for one of you to do it. Shame on me for total strawman. Shame, shame, shame. Goodnight fellas. It's been enjoyable.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaleredar View Post
    "it's an archaic system... it's a really bad thing for the country."


    I think most people are thinking that about the electoral college at this point.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 10thMountainMan View Post
    There's a difference between an Ad hominem and an insult. One is an illogical attempt to invalidate an argument. The other is just being a dick. See if you can sort that out. You can do it. I know you can.
    Ironic because those two are essentially synonyms.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mormolyce View Post
    I wonder how he feels about it sense it won him the election.
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    Kaleredar is right...
    Words to live by.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 10thMountainMan View Post
    Obama did the exact same thing when he was president. I am thrilled however, at the new liberal enthusiasm for constitutional limits on executive power. It's probably too much to hope for that your enthusiasm will remain when your party returns to power. Sad truth is most people really only reject authoritarianism when they when it is being wielded by a person or in a manner not to their liking. You're all frauds.
    All men are frauds. Only difference between them is that some admit it. I myself deny it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Breccia View Post

    Just so we're clear: are you using Trump's lack of knowledge about the job to defend him?
    Nope.

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    Quote Originally Posted by -MDH- View Post
    That awkward moment when your president wants to be a king after using king as an insult about the last president for the past 8 years straight.

    He's really jealous of Erdogan I bet.
    And Kim Jong Un.

    Donald Trump: N Korea's Kim Jong-un a 'smart cookie'

    President Trump, asked what he made of the North Korean leader, answered:
    "People are saying: 'Is he sane?' I have no idea.... but he was a young man of 26 or 27... when his father died. He's dealing with obviously very tough people, in particular the generals and others.
    "And at a very young age, he was able to assume power. A lot of people, I'm sure, tried to take that power away, whether it was his uncle or anybody else. And he was able to do it. So obviously, he's a pretty smart cookie."
    http://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-39764834

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaleredar View Post
    I wonder how he feels about it sense it won him the election.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ooid View Post
    Nope.
    Thank you. Context is hard to tell in written text sometimes.

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